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Nixon Goes to China – (a Roe deal with Rudy)
Opinion Journal ^ | 3/5/07 | JAMES TARANTO

Posted on 03/05/2007 5:11:08 PM PST by Sunsong

The Weekly Standard's Noemie Emery looks at a subject we've written a lot about over the past few weeks: social conservatives who are considering backing Rudy Giuliani for president despite his disagreeing with them on abortion. Emery argues that Republicans are "making a deal":

The deal in the works has been carefully crafted to make sure that no one loses too much. Conservatives would be getting a pro-choice nominee, but one who would not push a pro-choice agenda, and one who would give them (as far as presidents can be sure in these matters) the kind of judges they long for. Giuliani would not be required to renounce his beliefs, merely to appoint the right kind of judges and to remain more or less neutral in a policy area in which, to be honest, he has never shown that much interest.

In fact, as Emery points out elsewhere, "aside from the appointing of judges, and some tinkering with executive orders," there is little the president can do about abortion. As long as the Supreme Court insists that abortion is a constitutional right, there is little Congress or the state legislatures can do either. If President Giuliani makes good on his promise to nominate judges, and especially high court justices, who are inclined to overturn Roe v. Wade, his pro-life supporters will have received almost everything substantive that they could have asked for.

How likely is Roe to be overturned? There's no way to know, but we can speculate. Currently seven of the nine justices have taken a position on the subject: five have upheld the putative constitutional right to abortion, while two have said they would overturn it…

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; giuliani; rudy; rudygiuliani
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1 posted on 03/05/2007 5:11:11 PM PST by Sunsong
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To: areafiftyone; PhiKapMom; BunnySlippers

Rudy ping


2 posted on 03/05/2007 5:11:48 PM PST by Sunsong
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To: Sunsong

The burning question for me is: is he a man of honor? Or will he throw us overboard the first chance he gets?


3 posted on 03/05/2007 5:12:29 PM PST by ECM (Government is a make-work program for lawyers.)
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To: Sunsong

Some one needs to show all of the Conservatives he has appointed to anything including dog catcher in the past before I would believe him!


4 posted on 03/05/2007 5:14:26 PM PST by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (Vote for RINOS, lose and complain by sending a self-abused stomped elephant.)
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To: Sunsong

Abortion isn't the only social issue that matters. There's gay "rights," gun rights, and immigration (if you count that), among other things. Immigration is probably the biggie in terms of the president being likely to take action on it.


5 posted on 03/05/2007 5:19:38 PM PST by BackInBlack ("The act of defending any of the cardinal virtues has today all the exhilaration of a vice.")
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran

There's Conservatives in New York?


6 posted on 03/05/2007 5:20:08 PM PST by Eclectica (Ask your MD about Evolution. Please!)
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To: Sunsong

There is no need to wait to overturn Roe vs Wade. Legislation is already pending in Congress that'll sidestep the atrocious ruling and give our unborn the protection it deserves.


7 posted on 03/05/2007 5:20:19 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Good night Chesty, wherever you are!)
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To: ECM

I haven't seen people questioning whether Rudy is a straight shooter or not. It seems his word is good as far as I've heard.


8 posted on 03/05/2007 5:21:08 PM PST by Sunsong
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To: Eclectica

That Rudy appointed?


9 posted on 03/05/2007 5:22:11 PM PST by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (Vote for RINOS, lose and complain by sending a self-abused stomped elephant.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Legislation is already pending in Congress that'll sidestep the atrocious ruling and give our unborn the protection it deserves.

Don't hold your breath waiting for this Dumbocrap congers to pass any such legislation.

10 posted on 03/05/2007 5:23:49 PM PST by Ole Okie
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran

I suspect you wouldn't believe him no matter what evidence was put before you.


11 posted on 03/05/2007 5:23:59 PM PST by Sunsong
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To: BackInBlack
putative constitutional right

Main Entry: pu·ta·tive
Pronunciation: 'pyü-t&-tiv
Function: adjective
: thought, assumed, or alleged to be such or to exist
—pu·ta·tive·ly adverb Merriam-Webster's Dictionary of Law,
© 1996 Merriam-Webster, Inc.

12 posted on 03/05/2007 5:24:10 PM PST by don-o (Fight, fight. fight to drive the GOP to the right!!!!)
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To: ECM
The burning question for me is: is he a man of honor?

Yes. He tells it like it is, and never hedges. I watched him closely the whole time he was mayor of New York, and I think that was always true.

When the press confronted him, he never backed down or hedged, and they confronted him every day. When he said he would attend the funeral of every cop or fireman killed in the line of duty, he kept his word. When he said he would stand behind cops who had to shoot black criminals in the course of duty, he stood by them, despite nationwide attacks on him.

This became an issue in the early days of the campaign against Hillary for the senate, and he did not back down, although the NY Times and the major networks attacked him viciously every day as a racist and a supporter of police brutality.

If he makes a promise, it's a good bet he will keep it.

13 posted on 03/05/2007 5:28:23 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Ole Okie
Don't hold your breath waiting for this Dumbocrap congers to pass any such legislation.

There's a better chance of Congress passing it than Rudy nonminating originalist judges. There are lots of Blue Dog Democrats who lean pro-life, and Rudy would be pressured to sign such legislation unless he wants to be a one-term President.

14 posted on 03/05/2007 5:28:38 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Good night Chesty, wherever you are!)
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To: Sunsong

So you can not name even one! LOL

How about the rest house set up for the real 911 heroes working to clear and find people in the rubble, that his appointed goons took over and turned into their play pen?



15 posted on 03/05/2007 5:30:14 PM PST by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (Vote for RINOS, lose and complain by sending a self-abused stomped elephant.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

and the 60 senate votes, how do we get those?


16 posted on 03/05/2007 5:30:48 PM PST by oceanview
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To: don-o

did you mean to reply to me? i don't know what relevance that has to my comment.


17 posted on 03/05/2007 5:48:20 PM PST by BackInBlack ("The act of defending any of the cardinal virtues has today all the exhilaration of a vice.")
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To: Sunsong; HuntsvilleTxVeteran

Sunsong, if Huntsville won't believe evidence, why don't you provide it and expose his obstinance? Or do you simply not have any? And more importantly, if that's the case: do you simply not care that the evidence doesn't exist?


18 posted on 03/05/2007 5:51:19 PM PST by BackInBlack ("The act of defending any of the cardinal virtues has today all the exhilaration of a vice.")
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To: BackInBlack
did you mean to reply to me?

Nah. Yours was just the last post when I replied. Happens all the time. Hope you're OK.

19 posted on 03/05/2007 5:53:28 PM PST by don-o (Fight, fight. fight to drive the GOP to the right!!!!)
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To: Sunsong

Dream on, Rutards, dream on...


20 posted on 03/05/2007 5:55:03 PM PST by Clemenza (NO to Rudy in 2008! New York's Values are NOT America's Values!)
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