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To: Siobhan; Jim Robinson; SJackson
The secondary cluster gets a great deal of energy from some sectors but the real question on credentials centers, I think, around his support of gun control and abortion on demand.

Maybe for some, but not for me. What really troubles me about Rudy is that he doesn't understand why the Second Amendment is our best defense against an enemy within. Its purpose is to empower every male of fighting age to be an agent to protect this country.

Remember, it wasn't the military that brought down the only plane on 9-11. It wasn't the police that caught the DC sniper. It isn't the police that turn in the most criminals. It's the responsible law-abiding citizen who is the key to keeping us free. Rudy wants to disarm that citizen, leaving the old, weak, or infirm to rely upon the government to protect them.

Tens of millions of people died in the last century for the mistake of turning in their weapons. Rudy himself may not be a threat to tyrannize us, but, were they elected, any socialist leaders thereafer would have us at their mercy. That Rudy doesn't understand this or doesn't care renders him unqualified as our principal Constitutional officer. Period. He not only shouldn't be nominated, no responsible citizen in this Republic should even consider his candidacy.

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This following observation not be universally true, but I believe it to be generally accurate: From what I have seen here on FR, the bulk of Rudy's supporters are women, usually urban and suburban residents. This is no surprise. Women are less capable of physically defending themselves, unarmed. They are statistically less likely to be competent owners of a firearm, even here on FR. They grow up expecting their fathers to protect them. Now, in the latter days of fatherless and single female households, the only "father" available to do that job is government. Accordingly, they go looking for a figure that they belive will provide that protection, Second Amendment be damned, their fears must be assuaged. They have no idea or concern for the dangers they are inviting.

251 posted on 03/06/2007 8:02:01 PM PST by Carry_Okie (Duncan Hunter for President)
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To: Carry_Okie

Hey, everybody, Carry_Okie is really Dr. Phil!


255 posted on 03/06/2007 8:04:52 PM PST by wouldntbprudent
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To: Carry_Okie
I believe you are saying his position on abortion is not an issue for you, but his gun control positions are vis-a-vis the Second Amendment which should mobilize us as a nation to the defense of our homeland. Is that right?
272 posted on 03/06/2007 8:12:57 PM PST by Siobhan (Pray, pray, pray,)
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To: Carry_Okie
Maybe for some, but not for me. What really troubles me about Rudy is that he doesn't understand why the Second Amendment is our best defense against an enemy within. Its purpose is to empower every male of fighting age to be an agent to protect this country.

It's troubling on several levels. That his position is a step backward is clear.

One of the problems of the last several decades has been federal usurpation of issues best left to the states. In this instance Rudy takes a federally protected right and essentially supports delegating it to the states, where inroads can be made more easily, moulding attitudes.

If a federal official or candidate believes handgun bans, assault weapon bans, and licensing are constitutional, he should have the courage to propose them on a federal level. Not to the states and courts in an effort to build momentum.

IMO this brings his promise to appoint conservative judges into question as well.

433 posted on 03/07/2007 7:07:51 AM PST by SJackson (No Free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms, Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Carry_Okie
A relevant thread.

Shooting Back-story of Christian missionary who fired on terrorists who attacked his congregation

434 posted on 03/07/2007 7:09:35 AM PST by SJackson (No Free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms, Thomas Jefferson)
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