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To: airborne

I disagree with the content of the court's opinion here, but I'm afraid they are on sound legal ground. We have free speech rights, but only as private citizens. Courts have consistently ruled that employers can restrict speech of employees (especially government employees) while on the job. For example, the Hatch Act restricts political speech by public employees on the job. Public employees cannot advocate for particular candidates or parties on work time. Where the City of Oakland may have gone wrong was by allowing some political speech while forbidding others. That may open them to an action based on discrimination. But they would be legally protected if they proscribed both sides from using work time or a company bulletin board for non-work related political appeals.


4 posted on 03/08/2007 2:41:06 AM PST by Stirner
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To: Stirner
...municipal employers have the right to censor the words "natural family," "marriage" and "family values" ...

So, where do you draw the line?

How long before saying "God bless you" when someone sneezes is considered "hate speech"?

When will, "I disagree with your liberal interpretation" be grounds for arrest?

5 posted on 03/08/2007 2:54:41 AM PST by airborne (Rudy is nothing but a donkey in an elephant suit! HUNTER 2008!)
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To: Stirner

"on sound legal ground"

I hope you are very wrong.


6 posted on 03/08/2007 2:55:10 AM PST by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like what you say))
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To: Stirner
"I disagree with the content of the court's opinion here, but I'm afraid they are on sound legal ground. We have free speech rights, but only as private citizens."

True---but this is a case of UNEQUAL application of the rules. One faction (the queers) are openly permitted speech espousing THEIR position on company time with company resources, but the Christians are prevented from doing so. Either let BOTH factions speak, or shut BOTH factions up.

As usual, the Ninth Circuit is nuts.

9 posted on 03/08/2007 3:42:13 AM PST by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel-NRA)
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To: Stirner

The city has set a precendent by allowing the homosexual agenda to be promoted on the bulletin board and in e-mails. They have even allowed anti-Christian messages to be sent without interference. By doing so, they have given tacit approval to use of city bulletin boards and e-mails for such purposes.

By specifically denying Christian groups access to the same priviledges, they have in fact, discriminated against them on religious grounds and are guilty of denying the Christians their 1st amendment rights.


11 posted on 03/08/2007 3:51:26 AM PST by deaconjim (Because He lives...)
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To: Stirner
But the homosexuals CAN advance THEIR hate-filled agenda on city emails and with city money in city meetings and during city time?
28 posted on 03/09/2007 8:25:42 AM PST by Robert A Cook PE (I can only donate monthly, but Hillary's ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: Stirner

well said


33 posted on 03/09/2007 8:40:09 AM PST by Homer1
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To: Stirner

What about restrictions on viewpoint discrimination? The government employer was allowing pro-gay, anti-Christian speech>


36 posted on 03/09/2007 8:51:14 AM PST by lady lawyer
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