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SoCal: Feds track jailed gang members' immigration status
AP on Bakersfield Californian ^ | 3/11/07 | AP

Posted on 03/11/2007 10:47:10 AM PDT by NormsRevenge

A recent spot check by federal agents found that 59 street gang members in Southern California jails are illegal immigrants subject to deportation.

U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement named the deportable gang members during a first-of-its-kind screening of some inmates last month.

The review is continuing, and in the first year officials expect to identify up to 800 gang members who are in this country illegally, said Jim Hayes, director of the Los Angeles field office.

The focus on inmates' immigration status comes as Los Angeles pushes for federal agencies to help crack down on gang crime.

The report has sparked a debate over the role of border enforcement in combating the gang problem.

Some officials say it also shows the need for agencies, including the Los Angeles Police Department, to loosen policies that generally prohibit officers from asking about the immigration status of anyone they question.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: aliens; crimaliens; feds; gangmembers; illegalimmigration; illegals; immigration; jailed; status; track

1 posted on 03/11/2007 10:47:14 AM PDT by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge

Adios amigos!


2 posted on 03/11/2007 10:48:31 AM PDT by Wally_Kalbacken (Seldom right but never in doubt)
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To: NormsRevenge

U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement named the deportable gang members during a first-of-its-kind screening of some inmates last month.

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The the words "first-of-its-kind" just screamed at me. Maybe I am not just smart enough, but I cannot figure out why this has not been an ongoing process for many years.


3 posted on 03/11/2007 10:54:30 AM PDT by Bigg Red (You are either with us or with the terrorists.)
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To: NormsRevenge
"... subject to deportation."

Deport them 1,000 times and they'll just come right back across the border 1,000 times. What a joke and what a total waste of tax dollars, all for the sake of pre-election window-dressing. Same goes for these "raids" on scofflaw businesses. Way too little, way too late.

4 posted on 03/11/2007 10:59:31 AM PDT by Bonaparte
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To: NormsRevenge
Los Angeles looks at the Feds for help to combat gangs while sitting on their duffs, looking the other way, with illegals engaging in gang warfare.
Without local determination, willpower, there is no end in sight to break this home grown gang warfare.
Are there politicians or even a mayor as the top lead who stands aside garnering votes to remain seated?
Good luck, but defense has to start at your home base.
5 posted on 03/11/2007 10:59:36 AM PDT by hermgem (The same)
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To: Bonaparte
Deport them 1,000 times and they'll just come right back across the border 1,000 times. What a joke and what a total waste of tax dollars.

I'm often cynical about this sort of thing, like you are. But on the other hand, several Central American countries are having a huge problem with gang members who were deported from the U.S. (El Salvador is the prime example.)

So it appears that not all of them are making their way back into the states. That's good for us, but real bad for Central America.

6 posted on 03/11/2007 11:07:16 AM PDT by 68skylark
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To: Bonaparte
Deport them 1,000 times and they'll just come right back across the border 1,000 times. What a joke and what a total waste of tax dollars, all for the sake of pre-election window-dressing. Same goes for these "raids" on scofflaw businesses. Way too little, way too late.

My thoughts exactly. Until the border is controlled, this is a waste of resources.

7 posted on 03/11/2007 11:07:22 AM PDT by digerati
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To: NormsRevenge
There is a way to get rid of these 'illegal criminal alien invaders' and it will work. Our congress hasn't the will to be rid of these 'illegal criminal alien invaders', for if congress had the 'will' a plan such as below would have been implemented long ago. I fully believe nearly all of congress is on the side of these 'invaders'.

It's really quite simple:
1) give the 'illegal criminal alien invaders, 30 days to leave the country, if not do the following:
2) confiscate all property, homes, vehicles, bank accounts of those 'invaders' and any person or company or church who aids the 'invaders'
3) use the confiscated property to fund additional means of removing the invaders.

It will take brass to remove the 'invaders' but don't you dare tell me it can't be done. The only thing lacking is the will to make the 'illegal criminal alien invaders' leave.

8 posted on 03/11/2007 11:11:16 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (God Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform, Our Heroes.)
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To: Bigg Red
"... but I cannot figure out why this has not been an ongoing process for many years."

I can. It's because neither party gives a tinker's d*mn about the integrity of our national borders or our immigration law and labor policy. The democrats see these millions of illegals as just one more way to steal elections. And the GOP sleeplessly paces the floor at night, thinking up new ways to kiss Mexico's ass and prevent that country from going communist -- which it would, if those 15 million illegals were still in Mexico and voting in that country's national elections.

9 posted on 03/11/2007 11:12:30 AM PDT by Bonaparte
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To: Bonaparte

And the GOP sleeplessly paces the floor at night, thinking up new ways to kiss Mexico's ass and prevent that country from going communist -- which it would, if those 15 million illegals were still in Mexico and voting in that country's national elections.

Ahhhh, so they would rather they stay here, be made legal, and turn our country into a socialist one.
Makes sense to me.
By the way, there are many more here than 15 million.


10 posted on 03/11/2007 11:18:09 AM PDT by sheana
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To: NormsRevenge
They expect to ID just 800...?!!! How? By ASKING them?

Immigration status screening should be a completely automatic, integral part of the incarceration process. And those that are illegal should be incarcerated at a forced labor camp, with no compensation.

11 posted on 03/11/2007 11:31:13 AM PDT by gaijin
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To: sheana
I believe the GOP is so afraid of its own shadow, it won't say one word against these illegals, instead hoping that it can win them over through amnesty. That won't happen, because the democrats will buy them off with our tax dollars long before their attitudes can be changed.

Almost nobody wants to face the facts.

If these people stay in Mexico, that country will go communist. If these people stay here, we will suffer a similar result.

The solution is as plain as day. Massive, permanent military fortification of our southern border and intensive coastal enforcement, followed by aggressive policy of deportation. It's too bad that decades of beltway indifference and corruption has brought us to this juncture, but the longer we wait, the worse the fallout is going to be. My guess is that the federal government will do nothing substantive in this matter and that eventually, Americans will have no choice but to take matters into their own hands. I hope I'm wrong about this, but I don't think I am.

12 posted on 03/11/2007 11:40:48 AM PDT by Bonaparte
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To: Bonaparte

Nothing will be done, it would be considered 'mean'. The American people have lost this debate. The politicians care more about illegals.
Our country is already gone. It is too late. I watch the evening news and it sounds like I am already in Mexico. Nothing but hispanic surnames, murders, shootouts, stabbings, etc. A large percentage of those hispanic surnames are legal, anchor babies.
I can't go to certain areas of town. I can't leave my house for long periods of time. I can't get into an emergency room without at least a 4 hr wait and I have to sit there with most of the room speaking Spanish.
I am angry! I am fed up! Noone cares.


13 posted on 03/11/2007 11:48:29 AM PDT by sheana
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To: sheana
Indeed. This is why I believe that in time, Americans will have only two choices -- either meekly accept that we are an occupied country or take up arms. It will be a bloody mess, largely because the federal government has always been on the side of the illegals and will continue to be.

They will never enforce immigration law against these people. That will have to come from us.

14 posted on 03/11/2007 11:54:56 AM PDT by Bonaparte
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To: Bonaparte

"They will never enforce immigration law against these people. That will have to come from us."

Of course, and that's exactly why they are working on this:

"ARIZONA: Proposed law would make armed Minutemen vigilantes felons

Arizona State Representative Kyrsten Sinema, D-Phoenix, has introduced a bill in the Arizona House that will make border vigilantism while armed a felony punishable by up to 18 months in prison.

Rep. Kyrsten Sinema said that her proposed law, HB 2286, is specifically aimed at the Minuteman organization "and other vigilante groups" that patrol the US/Mexico border while armed.

Rep. Kyrsten Sinema is a native Arizonan, and a two-time graduate of Arizona State University, earning a law degree and a masters' degree. In addition to her work at the legislature, Kyrsten is a professor in the School of Social Work at ASU and also practices criminal defense law."

and this:

February 21, 2007

"Another Arizona legislator receives death threats from racist border vigilantes

rep. bill_konopnickiYet another Arizona state government representative has received death threats from the racist anti-Mexican border vigilantes that operate in the state. Rep. Bill Konopnicki of Safford, Arizona said on Tuesday, "I never thought that I would fear for my safety or the safety of my family when I took a seat in the Arizona House of Representatives." In an emotional speech on the floor of the legislature, Rep. Konopnicki added, "None of us should fear for our safety or of those we love."

Rep. Bill Konopnicki is not the only Arizona legislator to receive threats in connection with immigration and border issues. On January 22, Rep. Kyrsten Sinema of Phoenix reported having received numerous death threats and obnoxious sexually oriented e-mails after she sponsored a bill that would make armed border vigilante operations a felony and an act of domestic terrorism.

rep. kyrsten_sinemaSpeaker of the Arizona House of Representatives Jim Weiers reported that other members had received threats as well. Speaker Weiers said, "Mr. Konopnicki, you're right. A lot of things have gotten out of hand, These things happen a lot, a lot more than the public would ever imagine." Weiers added, "It goes too far to threaten families. Hopefully we will catch these people and bring them to justice."

Arizona is now the epicenter of the Mexican "immigration earthquake" and a possible flashpoint for a bloody border war. In the recent past, there have been numerous brazen murders of defenseless undocumenetd Mexican immigrants and the state has become a magnet for violent White supremacists from throughout the USA. There is a sizable under-educated White population that takes much pride in the state's "lawless" (Ala Wild West) culture and who believe it is their right to hunt for and kill undocumented Mexican immigrants with impunity."

Both News Bulletins from LaVoz deAtzlan

Didn't think they were readying those FEMA camps for the illegals?


16 posted on 03/11/2007 12:46:31 PM PDT by Kimberly GG (DUNCAN HUNTER '08.....lframerica.com.....MARCH TO TAKE BACK AMERICA)
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To: Kimberly GG

And that only scratches the surface. It won't just be the Mexicans we're fighting. It will be all those living in the USA who have a vested interest in continuing this invasion, everyone from the gangs to the federal government itself. Those of us who take a stand to defend our laws, our border, our soil, will have no allies but plenty of enemies right here at home -- just as we do now.


17 posted on 03/11/2007 3:22:47 PM PDT by Bonaparte
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To: Bonaparte; All

MOre of these issues at The Daily News, link:

Special Order 40, Illegal Aliens, and Gangmembers

http://valleynews.com/TheValley/Stories/News/General-News/Story~467433.aspx


18 posted on 06/03/2008 6:40:18 PM PDT by cowboy_code (Note for visitors at Arafat's grave - first dance, THEN pee.)
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