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Giuliani Leads Three Democrats in Florida
Angus Reid Global Monitor ^ | March 12, 2007 | Angus Reid Global Monitor

Posted on 03/11/2007 4:16:20 PM PDT by FairOpinion

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To: Dstorm

If a majority of Republican voters want someone other than Rudy as the nominee, why hasn't that candidate caught fire yet?

And, oh, could you please tell me his name? Who do you think the majority will flock to like ants at a picnic?


101 posted on 03/11/2007 5:23:48 PM PDT by wouldntbprudent
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To: Cincinna

Rudy will play very well in CA....similar to Ahnuld


102 posted on 03/11/2007 5:25:58 PM PDT by texicali (those that can do! Rudy does in spades)
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To: wouldntbprudent
If a majority of Republican voters want someone other than Rudy as the nominee, why hasn't that candidate caught fire yet?

The fact it's still slightly less than 20 months before the election is a good reason.
103 posted on 03/11/2007 5:27:03 PM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax , you earn it , you keep it!)
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To: Dstorm
if Rudy wins the nomination, that means he won a majority of delegates. The fact that some delegates supported other contenders, is irrelevant.

For example, since Duncan Hunter is a class act, and a Republican through and through, should he lose the nomination, and Rudy wins it, he will throw his support behind Rudy. Ergo (which means "herefore", for the pedantically challenged), since those who lost the nomination will throw their support behind Rudy, he will indeed have a majority of delegates (because he won the nomination).

We have seen in past elections that Democrats tried to spin a loss as a win, but I haven't seen Repoublicans do so as yet, so my point still holds. Since we do elect folks democratically in our great country, that would mean that they are elected by a mojority of those who vote.

The "all or nothing" gang, who would be in the minority, may choose to bolt or not vote and that is their choice. However, since they would be the minority, THEY would be at fault should the party fracture.

Of course, those who do decide to hold out and not vote, or would vote for Fred Mertz of the Itchy Tochus Party would lose what little credibility they have, by allowing a Defeatocrat to take the WH, thereby placing the country in terrible jeopardy.

So, there you have it. Hope that you can follow along, Einstein.

104 posted on 03/11/2007 5:28:49 PM PDT by sofaman ("The price of greatness is responsibility." Sir Winston Churchill.)
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To: California Patriot

However, Alfonse was not a household name. Everyone knows Mayor Rudy.


105 posted on 03/11/2007 5:29:03 PM PDT by Miss Didi ("Good heavens, woman, this is a war not a garden party!" Dr. Meade, Gone with the Wind)
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To: FairOpinion

Anyone else hear about Giuliani selling a corporation for $75 million more than its reported worth to a banking institution? I heard it on WMAL -- apparently, it worked a lot like Hillary's cattle futures.


106 posted on 03/11/2007 5:29:22 PM PDT by EverOnward
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To: FairOpinion
I appreciate you bringing more issues to the table.

I think the issues you bring up are light compared to the stance Rudi has taken on Abortion, the 2nd Amendment, and gay unions. It will be easier for Hunter to overcome some of his fiscal mistakes then it will be for Rudy to over come Abortion and gun control. Also, Hunter looks stronger by voting for the war knowing that his son could go.

Also, the mud I can find on Hunter is a lot and I do mean a lot less then the mud I can find on Rudi.

Now, I want to hear why I should think that Rudy will not flip on me in regards to Guns and Abortion. What makes you trust him? Is it the fear of Hillery?

Don't let the liberals tell you that you need a liberal to beat a liberal.
107 posted on 03/11/2007 5:29:32 PM PDT by do the dhue (DEM ARE RATS!!!!!)
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To: FairOpinion
I appreciate you bringing more issues to the table.

I think the issues you bring up are light compared to the stance Rudi has taken on Abortion, the 2nd Amendment, and gay unions. It will be easier for Hunter to overcome some of his fiscal mistakes then it will be for Rudy to over come Abortion and gun control. Also, Hunter looks stronger by voting for the war knowing that his son could go.

Also, the mud I can find on Hunter is a lot and I do mean a lot less then the mud I can find on Rudi.

Now, I want to hear why I should think that Rudy will not flip on me in regards to Guns and Abortion. What makes you trust him? Is it the fear of Hillery?

Don't let the liberals tell you that you need a liberal to beat a liberal.
108 posted on 03/11/2007 5:29:33 PM PDT by do the dhue (DEM ARE RATS!!!!!)
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To: FairOpinion

Isn't the election in like 20 months? I'm just checkin..making sure...lol...why oh why are we being subjected to polls like these so far out. Let me know these numbers next year at this time and we "MIGHT" have something to talk about.


109 posted on 03/11/2007 5:29:49 PM PDT by My Favorite Headache (Liberals : So open-minded....their brains have all fallen out)
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To: deport
This poll smells fishy.

Rudy should have a bigger lead over Hillary. There's no way he's tying her in the conservative North and Panhandle of Florida.

110 posted on 03/11/2007 5:30:17 PM PDT by LdSentinal
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To: California Patriot
"Retirees from NYC area (mostly liberals, or at least, mostly Democrats) remember how the city used to be when they were young, know how bad it got, know and appreciate the fact that Rudy improved it significantly. And they all vote."

Speaking as a native Floridian, I wish most of them would go back to NYC. Well...maybe just the liberal ones. Oh wait...that would be most of them after all.

111 posted on 03/11/2007 5:30:46 PM PDT by bluecollarman (Rudy's better than a communist with fat legs, but he's no real conservative.)
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To: FairOpinion

Rudy should not be tied with Hillary in Ohio. let's see what future polls show.


112 posted on 03/11/2007 5:30:57 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: Man50D

It's half that. It's 10 months to the Iowa Caucuses.


113 posted on 03/11/2007 5:31:29 PM PDT by LdSentinal
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To: FairOpinion

FO I agree with you 100%...I live in CA....the dems start their vote count with CA and a few other "safe" states for them...Rudy will change that equation...they will have to spend money out here to try and defend their turf...as our current Gov has shown a pubbie can win statewide with a majority of the GOP votes, most of the indy votes and some of the dem votes....Rudy is more than capable of doing the very same thing....


114 posted on 03/11/2007 5:31:42 PM PDT by texicali (those that can do! Rudy does in spades)
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To: California Patriot

with Richardson as VP, the Dems will be able to play in western states with large Hispanic populations like NM (they win that), NV and CO.


115 posted on 03/11/2007 5:32:49 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: wouldntbprudent

This far out I don't know, but that don't mean squat, it still doesn't make Rudy the Winner and standard bearer for the Republican party and it doesn't make statements from Rudy supporters that those who don't support him are not facing reality and they are the minority opinion true.


116 posted on 03/11/2007 5:35:36 PM PDT by Dstorm
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To: sofaman

Excellent point.


117 posted on 03/11/2007 5:36:24 PM PDT by Collier
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To: Man50D

no it's 10 months to the Iowa Caucus and 11 months to the Feb 5 primaries in many many states....the nominee will be know by the middle of Feb or at the latest the 1st of March...


118 posted on 03/11/2007 5:37:28 PM PDT by texicali (those that can do! Rudy does in spades)
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To: Cincinna
Upstate NY tends towards blue collar union types, I believe. Very strong organization in the unions. I've met several NY union types from the FDs up around there who have moved into Texas, and they're almost communist in their beliefs about government control of the workplace.

Around here, we're aghast at many of the initiatives pushed by the northeastern AFL-CIO IAFF people. For example, they want the union to push legislation preventing a paid firefighter from working as a volunteer firefighter when off duty. That would never be a popular position in Texas, as many firefighters live in small towns with volunteer departments, but work in larger cities. We also believe what we do off duty is none of the union's or the fire department's business, as long as it's legal and we're not representing ourselves as members of the department for gain. We had an issue a few years ago where a guy was a stripper off-duty, and was using the department name when performing. The department asked him to stop doing it, and he started calling himself the firefighter stripper instead. The department was cool with that.

119 posted on 03/11/2007 5:37:39 PM PDT by Richard Kimball (Why yes, I do have a stupid picture for any occasion)
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To: Man50D
"The fact it's still slightly less than 20 months before the election ..."

That I agree with completely. Way tool early to make decision. I want to hear them all. Then I'll decide. I'd simply like evryone to take two steps back, put away the machetes and the scythes, and chill. Let's look at the candiates honestly and then make up our mind.

If our candidate is not nominated, imho, it is incumbent upon us, because we do love our country and recognize the dangers that we face should we have a Defeatocrat as President, to unite behind the candidate.

I take a very dim view of those who threaten to vote Turd Party or threaten to stay home. That is the political equivalent of a 4 year old having a tantrum.

120 posted on 03/11/2007 5:38:22 PM PDT by sofaman ("The price of greatness is responsibility." Sir Winston Churchill.)
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