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Perspectives : ’Sudden Jihad Syndrome’ - A reason to carry firearms for self-defense
Journal Chretien ^ | 3/10/07 | Larry Pratt

Posted on 03/11/2007 5:25:21 PM PDT by sig226

I have compiled (quite easily, I might add) a list of murders and attempted murders carried out by Muslims acting on the basis of what the founder of Islam taught them.

Convinced that they will go to heaven if they die killing infidels who Mohammed taught his followers to hate, some Muslims don’t bother joining al Qaeda or some other organized band of thugs. They get so filled with hatred from hearing Islamic sermons and visiting jihadi web sites that they decide to become freelance Jihadis.

The condition is recognizable and has been labeled Sudden Jihad Syndrome (SJS) — although some people are unable, or unwilling, to recognize SJS. Politically correct spokesmen for the FBI and other agencies seem to be under orders to issue a denial that a SJS-related murder could possibly have anything to do with Islam.

The rest of the population should come to grips with the fact that many in America are susceptible to SJS. The best antidote for many SJS-related acts of terrorism is a bullet fired from the gun of a prospective victim. The following list is offered to show that SJS is a reality, and that rational Americans should be prepared to deliver the most effective known antidote – a bullet administered at the first sign of an outbreak of SJS.

* March 1994 – Rashid Baz, a Muslim from Lebanon, opened fire on a van containing members of the Lubavitch Hassids in Brooklyn. One was killed.

* February 1997 – Palestinian-born Ali Abu Kamal opened fire on the observation deck of the Empire State Building, killing a tourist and injuring six other people before committing suicide. His daughter, Linda Kamal, said in 2007 that the family is tired of lying and admitted that a letter had been found on her father’s body explaining his Muslim hatred for Israel and America.

* July 2002 – Egyptian-born Hesham Mohammed Hadayet walked into the Israeli Airlines El Al terminal at the Los Angeles airport and began shooting Jews. He killed two and injured another four. He was known to sympathize with al Qaeda.

* September 2002 – Patrick Gott killed one and wounded another in the New Orleans airport. He had entered the terminal with a shotgun and his Koran.

* October 2002 – John Mohammed and Lee Malvo killed 13 people in the Washington, DC area. Both were converts to Islam and had attended a jihad training camp in southwestern Virginia.

* August 2003 – Mohammed Ali Alayed almost totally decapitated his erstwhile Jewish friend, Ariel Sellouk, following Alayed’s getting serious about his Islamic faith. He went to a mosque after killing Sellouk.

* October 2005 – Joel Henry Hinrichs III, a convert to Islam, was an engineering student at Oklahoma University. His student career ended when a bomb he had strapped on himself went off prematurely outside a crowed (sic) stadium, killing only himself. Police subsequently cleared explosives from the apartment that Hinrichs had shared with Muslim students from Pakistan.

* April 2006 – Muslim Ayhan Surucu was so angry when his sister started to wear make-up and date men in Berlin, Germany, that he put a gun to her head at a bus stop and killed her. Boys at a nearby school, attended mainly by the children of immigrant Muslim families, cheered and applauded when news of the murder reached them.

* May 2006 – Mohammed Reza Taheri-azar, a University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill student, rented an SUV and drove it through a crowded part of the campus— intentionally trying to hit people and wounding nine. In a series of letters to the student newspaper, he explained that he acted in obedience to Koranic dictates.

* June 2006 – Michael Ford, a Muslim convert, walked into work at a Safeway warehouse in Denver and opened fire on his coworkers, killing one and injuring five. Relatives explained that he was being teased at work because he’s a Muslim and he could not take it anymore.

* July 2006 – Naveed Alzal Haq, a Pakistani, walked into the Jewish Federation Center in downtown Seattle and shot six women — killing one, and wounding five (one of whom was pregnant). He stated matter-of-factly : "I am a Muslim American angry at Israel."

* August 2006 – Omeed Aziz Popal, a Muslim Afghan refugee, used his SUV as a weapon and ran down at least 14 people and a bicyclist in the San Francisco Bay area. He was targeting Jewish neighborhoods to terrorize.

* January 2007 – A 22-year-old Muslim, Ismail Yassin Mohamed, stole a car in Minneapolis and rammed it into other cars before stealing a van and doing the same, injuring several drivers and pedestrians at crosswalks and on sidewalks before police caught up with him. Mohamed called himself a "terrorist."

* February 2007 – Ibrihim Ahmed, a Nashville cab driver and Muslim, was enraged that two passengers did not agree with him about Islam. When they got out of the cab, he tried to run them down, striking one in a parking lot.

* February 2007 – Sulejman Talovic, a Bosnian Muslim immigrant, went to a Salt Lake City mosque on a Friday night. Then he went to one of only two malls in the state which prohibits civilian carrying of concealed weapons. He killed five before an off-duty cop (not subject to ban) used a concealed firearm stopped his murder spree.

Cornell University did a study estimating that there are seven million Muslims in the U.S. If even a single percent of that population is motivated to go kill a few infidels for Allah, the country would be facing 70,000 murderers on the loose.

The examples that I have found of Islam being the driving force for murder show that the prospect of Sudden Jihad Syndrome should be reason to loosen the country’s concealed carry laws. The Utah Jihadi did not have a concealed carry permit, but he carried his weapons to the scene of the crime concealed anyway. Why should the laws make it harder for the rest of us to counter what criminals are already doing ?

Put another way, our current restrictions on concealed carry on the books in most states facilitate murder by tying the hands of victims. The law should be on our side, not on the side of the bad guys.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: banglist; dcsniper; jihadinamerica; larrypratt; sjs; suddenjihadsyndrome; usmuslimterror
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Pratt makes a good argument. Even if the reader does not agree with RTC, the list of jihadi fruit loop troopers who decided to start killing infidels. I suppose Richard Reed didn't make the list because he didn't actually kill anyone.

I found some other references to Sudden Jihad Syndrome in other threads when I searched for this article. I'll go back to those other threads and add the keywords sjs and suddenjihadsyndrome.

1 posted on 03/11/2007 5:25:25 PM PDT by sig226
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To: DaveLoneRanger

Although this is not a story of a self defense shooting, Larry Pratt lists a number of incidents of 'sudden jihad syndrome.' This is when some Islamic Fruit Loop Trooper starts murdering infidels. I'll ping it to banglist and review the other threads to add the keywords I noted. It is useful information to any who want facts to argue in favor of RTC.


2 posted on 03/11/2007 5:29:31 PM PDT by sig226 (see my profile for the democrat culture of corruption)
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To: sig226

One of the reasons I always have at least two guns on me.


3 posted on 03/11/2007 5:31:36 PM PDT by 05 Mustang GT Rocks
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To: 05 Mustang GT Rocks
One of the reasons I always have at least two guns on me.

Just two? :)

4 posted on 03/11/2007 5:35:49 PM PDT by isthisnickcool (Oh! The Obamanation! Durka durka durka...)
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To: sig226
This article also gives lie to the claim you often hear (mostly from Republicans) that there have been no terrorists attacks since 9/11. Just how many innocent people does a jihadist nutball have to kill for it to be considered a terrorist attack?

This is what is wrong with having a "war on terror" as opposed to a war against islamic crazies. Its hard to fight an enemy your own side won't even name!

5 posted on 03/11/2007 5:38:44 PM PDT by trek
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To: sig226
For every one that has succeeded, there must be hundreds if not thousands more who thought about it and made plans, but have yet to carry out the deed.
6 posted on 03/11/2007 5:40:19 PM PDT by Kirkwood
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To: sig226

bump


7 posted on 03/11/2007 5:42:31 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: sig226

Kinda makes ya wonder why Schumer, Feinstein, Lautenberg and the gang want Americans disarmed, doesn't it?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j73SsNFgBO4


8 posted on 03/11/2007 5:43:34 PM PDT by Dick Bachert
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To: trek

So true. Good post.


9 posted on 03/11/2007 5:44:21 PM PDT by ladyinred
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To: sig226

Thanks for compiling this.


10 posted on 03/11/2007 5:44:59 PM PDT by EverOnward
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To: trek

"This article also gives lie to the claim you often hear (mostly from Republicans) that there have been no terrorists attacks since 9/11."

I hear this crap all the time from dimocrats, but have never heard such a thing from a Republican. I've heard Republicans say that there have been no MAJOR attacks (destroying a building or taking down an airliner), but we are all aware of these free-lance terrorists.


11 posted on 03/11/2007 5:45:03 PM PDT by Kirkwood
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To: sig226

ping


12 posted on 03/11/2007 5:46:39 PM PDT by Gigantor (The problem with socialism is that sooner or later you run out of other people's money to give away.)
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To: trek

There is a distinct and important difference between some crazy Islamist (sorry for the redundancy) and an organized attack.

GWB can rightly and proudly claim that he has kept us safe from (organized) terrorist attack. No one will ever be able to keep us safe from the nuts.

Everything I needed to know about Islam I learned on 9-11.


13 posted on 03/11/2007 5:47:31 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle (If America falls, darkness will cover the face of the earth for a thousand years.)
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To: sig226

1968 - Sirhan Sirhan murders Robert Kennedy, at a hotel in Lost Angeles.

1972 - muslims murder Jewish athletes, participating in the Munich Olympics.


14 posted on 03/11/2007 5:47:42 PM PDT by truth_seeker
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To: sig226
BTTT

15 posted on 03/11/2007 5:48:55 PM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (you shall know that I, YHVH, your Savior, and your Redeemer, am the Elohim of Ya’aqob.”Isaiah 60:16)
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To: sig226

Utah is a "shall issue" state. The problem in most states these days is not the restrictive laws -- it's that so few bother to get permits, guns and training


16 posted on 03/11/2007 5:52:22 PM PDT by SauronOfMordor (Never try to teach a pig to sing -- it wastes your time and it annoys the pig)
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To: sig226
Let's just say I reserve the right to discourage....with extreme prejudice....those that practice "SJS"....
17 posted on 03/11/2007 5:52:28 PM PDT by dirtbiker (I'm a liberal's worst nightmare: Redneck with a pickup, library card, and a concealed carry permit)
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To: sig226

GRRRRRRREAT post. Thanks.


18 posted on 03/11/2007 5:56:18 PM PDT by PGalt
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To: prairiebreeze; Mo1

I thought this was a good article to bookmark.


19 posted on 03/11/2007 5:57:25 PM PDT by Peach (The Clintons' pardoned more terrorists than they captured or killed.)
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To: sig226
And what about that Egyptian pilot that crashed that 767 a couple of years ago? I'm sure he had SJS.

SJS reminds me of BDS. After all, the left/democRATs/socialists want the jihadis to win so Bush doesn't get any credit for saving their collective (lol, how appropriate) butts.

5.56mm

20 posted on 03/11/2007 5:59:53 PM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: truth_seeker
I don't think I would call Robert Kennedy's murder part of a jihad, although I've heard numerous reasons for the murder. It strikes me as a political assassination. Other leaders have been murdered under similar circumstances - support for the enemy of the assassin. A technicality, yes, but I can assure you that I have counted how many angels can dance on the head of a pin and it's a lot.

The Munich Olympics were different. That was a planned attack carried out by a prepared group. That's also why the bombings of French and German clubs in the 1970s were omitted, as well as the mass murders in New York, London, Madrid, Czechnaya, Moscow and Bali.

Pratt's list is individuals who killed without support and preparation from an organization.

21 posted on 03/11/2007 6:07:14 PM PDT by sig226 (see my profile for the democrat culture of corruption)
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To: M Kehoe

That was in Turkey, wasn't it? I think you're right about that one.


22 posted on 03/11/2007 6:08:37 PM PDT by sig226 (see my profile for the democrat culture of corruption)
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To: sig226
If I recall correctly, the flight originated from Logan or JFK.

5.56mm

23 posted on 03/11/2007 6:12:15 PM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: ladyinred

Sounds like one of the reasons the founders wrote the 2nd A.


24 posted on 03/11/2007 6:14:19 PM PDT by Dutch Boy
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To: sig226
>"They get so filled with hatred from hearing Islamic sermons and visiting jihadi web sites that they decide to become freelance Jihadis.

You don't have to look that far. It's in their terrorist training manual aka the koranus!

"Make war upon such of those to whom the Scriptures have been given as believe not in God." Sura 9:29

Sura 9:5 of the “Koranus,” “Slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captives and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush.”

Queeranis-4:89— Take not friends from their ranks until they flee in the way of Allah. But if they turn renegades, seize them and kill them wherever ye find them; and take no friends or helpers from their ranks.


There's no reason to detain these peacefull people. Why let's give them preference to immigrate! They always improve every society they've ever come in contact with!


Aap aap ahh dap dap!!!!!
It's a religion of peace
It's a religion of peace



25 posted on 03/11/2007 6:17:20 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist (Compromise with Islam means you will submit to them killing you!)
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To: sig226

Bumped and bookmarked...


26 posted on 03/11/2007 6:18:16 PM PDT by KitJ
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To: M Kehoe
EgyptAir flight 990, from JFK to Cairo, crashed into the Atlantic Ocean off Massachusetts after the plane went into a dive so steep that the passengers would have experienced weightlessness. The co pilot's Islamic prayer was recorded by the cockpit voice recorder, and the flight data recorder recorded control positions and control inputs consistent with someone pushing the plane into a crash dive. Other articles said that the service crews may have used the wrong torque wrench on the elevator, which could cause the elevator to run away. I haven't found an NTSB report on it yet, so I can't say.
27 posted on 03/11/2007 6:24:50 PM PDT by sig226 (see my profile for the democrat culture of corruption)
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To: Dutch Boy
Sounds like one of the reasons the founders wrote the 2nd A.

Actually, you make an EXCELLENT point. I get really tired of the whole "The Second Amendment is about self defense" line, making it sound like it's about defending yourself from casual criminals when in fact it's about defending yourself from a criminal government. The Second Amendment, at its root, is about individuals having an obligation to defend our country from foreign invaders as needed. I like your point.

28 posted on 03/11/2007 6:27:09 PM PDT by Hardastarboard (DemocraticUnderground.com is an internet hate site.)
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To: 05 Mustang GT Rocks

I wish my husband would let me buy a gun.


29 posted on 03/11/2007 6:27:41 PM PDT by diamond6 (Everyone who is for abortion has been born. Ronald Reagan)
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To: ATLDiver; trifona

Ping. Nice listing of possible/probable events.


30 posted on 03/11/2007 6:28:23 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
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To: Hardastarboard
The Second Amendment, at its root, is about individuals having an obligation to defend our country from foreign invaders as needed.

May I recommend a recent novel, A WELL REGULATED MILITIA, by John J. Carpenter, ISBN 1-4137-8889-0? Very good read.

31 posted on 03/11/2007 6:33:38 PM PDT by JoeFromSidney
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To: sig226

The 7 million Muzzies number is wayyy off, but this is a good list. If you, or any other Freepers, have a list of terrorist plots foiled in the United States (or that targeted Americans), could you please post a link in this thread? Thanks.


32 posted on 03/11/2007 6:34:48 PM PDT by SeafoodGumbo
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To: sig226
Not to distract from a serious topic, but, the following is a little puzzling:

ran down at least 14 people and a bicyclist.

When did bicyclists become subhuman?

33 posted on 03/11/2007 6:35:38 PM PDT by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
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To: SauronOfMordor
...so few bother to get permits, guns and training

I'm having a bit of a crisis if conscience lately.

I've been carrying without incident for about twenty years now, and due to some recent experiences I have had a profound reassessment of the sanctity and preciousness of any and all human life. To that end, for the most part, I have hung up my rig and started packing my rosary.

My distress comes from looking around at my fellow citzens and seeing what a vanishingly small percentage of them are actually prepared to deal with a sudden outbreak of SJS.

Either they conceal a whole lot better than I every did, or they are just going about their business like nothing has changed.

Who does one talk to in order to resolve such conflicts?

34 posted on 03/11/2007 6:36:38 PM PDT by papertyger
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To: papertyger

"When did bicyclists become subhuman?"

If it's one of those yellow "Share-a-bikes" then just recently.


35 posted on 03/11/2007 6:43:24 PM PDT by swatbuznik ((Hunter '08 --apostrophes optional))
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To: papertyger
Wow. It seems to me that someone, or more than one person, close to you has died recently and that is changing your view on living and taking life.

I don't think I can help you, and I expect you won't get much help on the web. I was an EMT for many years and people literally died in my hands. I am familiar with death. I think I would be able to shoot if there was a life and death situation.

I think you have decided that it is most important to you not to take a life. I respect that, although I don't agree.

Under what circumstances would you find it acceptable to take a life?
A war?
A righteous war, like World War II?
How about a war in which the sides aren't so cut and dried, like Vietnam?
If a pyscho was holding a knife to your child's throat, could you kill that man?
If he was holding a knife to a perfect stranger?

Does your faith give you the strength to go to the funeral of the man who killed your children and pray for him, as the Friends did last year?

If you can answer those questions honestly, I think you'll know what to do. A gun in the hand of a person who is unwilling to use it can make the situation worse if the bad guy takes it away. Good luck and God Bless.

36 posted on 03/11/2007 7:34:15 PM PDT by sig226 (see my profile for the democrat culture of corruption)
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To: trek

there have been no terrorists attacks since 9/11

yes, there have been and everyone knows it. what a lie. Larry finally started the list. i wanted to but didn't. there's the airplane kid and the anthrax, as well. probably 100 others no one is counting.


37 posted on 03/11/2007 7:41:08 PM PDT by kvanbrunt2
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To: Peach

FNC did a reporting of this exact topic a week or so ago .. but called it a different name ... the called it something like individual acts of terrorism


38 posted on 03/11/2007 7:42:57 PM PDT by Mo1 ( http://www.gohunter08.com)
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To: sig226
I carried a gun before permits were available. My dad always said..." I'd rather bail you out of Jail, then come identify you at the Morgue.

Now, I have a concealed-carry permit, and my baby goes everywhere with me

39 posted on 03/11/2007 7:55:21 PM PDT by Shadowstrike (Be polite, Be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
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To: sig226
Does your faith give you the strength to go to the funeral of the man who killed your children and pray for him, as the Friends did last year?

Yes.

Under what circumstances would you find it acceptable to take a life?

All the standard ones.

What fill me with dread and loathing is the prospect of "after," when I recognize I probably sent this person to the burning horror of hell for all eternity: something I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy.

However, what of those who would similarly be sent to hell by the actions of that person?

Therein lies my dilema.

40 posted on 03/11/2007 8:14:41 PM PDT by papertyger
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To: diamond6
I wish my husband would let me buy a gun.................Last I checked I don't think spousal permission is a requirement for gun ownership. Buy you and him one and surprise him by getting an instructor to tutor both of you in there proper use.
41 posted on 03/11/2007 8:27:47 PM PDT by eastforker (.308 SOCOM 16, hottest brand going.2350 FPS muzzle..M.. velocity)
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To: papertyger
...I probably sent this person to the burning horror of hell for all eternity...

It is the choices and actions that person made during their life that determines if they go to heaven or hell.

42 posted on 03/11/2007 8:38:28 PM PDT by Oorang (Tyranny thrives best where government need not fear the wrath of an armed people - Alex Kozinski)
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To: sig226
I carry everywhere. No matter if there is a posting on not allowing CW permit holders. It comes down to a basic principle I have.

I refuse to be anyone's victim at anytime in any place I choose to go. I do not cause trouble, hassle other people, or be a nusiance. I am a dead shot have been shot at and have seen the elephant. I do not fear my death, but woe to anyone who tries to murder another in my presence.

43 posted on 03/11/2007 8:52:12 PM PDT by Pistolshot (Condi 2008.<------added January 2004. Remember you heard it here first)
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To: sig226

It is time that Islam is outlawed as a religion. It is not a religion, and its belief in violence is a threat to our safety.


44 posted on 03/11/2007 8:53:29 PM PDT by exit82 (Defend our defenders--get off the fence.)
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To: Oorang
It is the choices and actions that person made during their life that determines if they go to heaven or hell.

Agreed, but that doesn't mean I can tolerate being the proximate cause.

Is it more important that a condemned man be executed, or that one avoid becoming his executioner?

45 posted on 03/11/2007 8:59:40 PM PDT by papertyger
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To: 05 Mustang GT Rocks
I personally carry a 1911a1 .45 and a Smith and Wesson 9mm and I keep a Ruger mini-14 in the truck. You can never have too much FIREPOWER. Stop these nuts in their tracks. TWO TO THE BODY ONE TO THE HEAD!!!!! Seriously I do carry these weapons because I am a Law Enforcement Officer and did not carry a off duty weapon till I was confronted by a drunk I had locked up a few days before, my wife was pregnant with our first son and all I had was a ketchup bottle. ( It broke nicely over his head by the way) he started to fight so I did what I had to to end the confrontation. He got 12 years in prison. We were lucky so now I carry.
46 posted on 03/11/2007 9:19:51 PM PDT by Mastersgte8
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To: papertyger
That is a question that one can only answer for themselves. I could not be a death-row executioner. But, if I saw someone committing evil, as in SJS that is the subject of this thread, I hope I would have the strength to put a stop to it. In my mind, stopping evil from hurting the innocent is more important.
47 posted on 03/11/2007 9:23:26 PM PDT by Oorang (Tyranny thrives best where government need not fear the wrath of an armed people - Alex Kozinski)
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To: diamond6
I wish my husband would let me buy a gun.

I wish my state would let me carry one (Illinois)

48 posted on 03/11/2007 9:29:01 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (Remember and pray for SSgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: diamond6
I wish my husband would let me buy a gun.

Why should you need your husband's permission?

the infowarrior

49 posted on 03/11/2007 10:40:29 PM PDT by infowarrior
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To: sig226

Ping!


50 posted on 03/12/2007 5:17:01 AM PDT by mr_hammer (Show me just what liberalism brought that was new, and there you will find things evil & inhuman)
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