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1 posted on 03/13/2007 5:56:54 AM PDT by Clive
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2 posted on 03/13/2007 5:57:26 AM PDT by Clive
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To: Clive

thanks for posting it.

I have friends there...it is very sad.


4 posted on 03/13/2007 6:07:49 AM PDT by LadyDoc (liberals only love politically correct poor people)
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To: Clive

They got what they wanted - a country ethnically cleansed of all non blacks and run by a socialist - let them starve...


6 posted on 03/13/2007 6:20:08 AM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: Clive

They probably should have done in Zimbabwe what LBJ did in the USA with his Great Society. Tax the Be-Jesus out of the producing population to support the non-producing population.


7 posted on 03/13/2007 6:54:46 AM PDT by blam
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To: Clive

Poor liberals one of their dream boys goes bad and reality takes over. What suprises me is that there are "conservatives" who still look upon their leftist counterparts as slightly out of touch "idealists", and not the nihilistic monsters of the self-hatred seminar known as Liberalism. I for one would like to see George Will and Boy George sent to Zimbabwe where Boy George can apologize for his Comrade gone bad Mugabe while Mr. Will can be sent out to hunt mice.


8 posted on 03/13/2007 8:38:44 AM PDT by junta (It's Jihad stupid! It's the borders stupid! It's Political Correctness stupid!)
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To: Clive

Meanwhile, I wonder how things are in Rhodesia?


9 posted on 03/13/2007 9:10:58 AM PDT by Redleg Duke (Heaven is home...I am just TDY here!)
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To: Clive
Zimbabwe is and has been a particularly nasty study in social engineering after the old Stalin pattern. The sort of fellow who can come up with a slogan like "rain that washes away the chaff" for the murder of 25,000 people would have been right at home in the Ukraine in the late 1920's and the 30's. "The death of one man is a tragedy; the death of millions is a statistic."

The problem is far more than one disgusting old man, it is the method that is the problem, the practice of a class-based ideology that is modern socialism, that enables a political party to affix itself to a society like a leech and suck it dry.

It is a political disaster of the first order that this became so fixed into the post-colonial movement within the European academy that the latter is now virtually indistinguishable from early-stage Marxism. But that is where the current generation of African leaders was nurtured and educated, and they were, once they returned to their native countries, an educated elite within relatively uneducated societies, which is Marx's dream come true. It is one of his base premises that the perquisite of power is plunder and that it has always been that way - if these new elites tended to act on that premise who could blame them?

But were that really the case the societies built around it would resemble their predecessors instead of becoming uniform economic basket cases. It is, in fact, a deeply flawed premise kept in place by two of the basest human emotions, envy and greed, papered over by a promise of a better world that never arrives.

And as the victim society's surplus diminishes so does the circle of its parasitical beneficiaries. The fellow convinced that Zimbabwe can support 6 million people has calculated it on the basis of the existing plunder to be had. He does not expect that to be six million subsistence farmers in a peaceful agrarian paradise. This paradise has limousines for the lucky and rifle butts for the rest. If the six million cannot be sustained by the surplus of others then it will become three million, then one, and then like all parasites the ruling class will drop off and look for another, richer host.

Do not look to the UN for help - it is peopled by precisely the sort of post-colonial educated elite that has attached itself to the groaning people of Africa. Failure is their norm and they hate the successful for their very existence even as they look to them as hosts.

10 posted on 03/13/2007 10:11:02 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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Another fine example why Marxists on ever continent should be smoked out and beaten to death like the vermin they are.


11 posted on 03/13/2007 10:13:35 AM PDT by TexasRepublic (Afghan protest - "Death to Dog Washers!")
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In 2005, there were roughly 4,000 more deaths each week than births, a rate that the famine has surely increased.

That's one Iraq quagmire every week. Where's the outrage?

12 posted on 03/13/2007 10:24:42 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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If the UN were really concerned, Zimbabwe would be considered a prime candidate for being recolonized (OK, the weasel-words would be "placed under protectorate status.")

But the UN is not really concerned. Or maybe they are, in some factions -- but they're also utterly corrupt and weak.

14 posted on 03/13/2007 10:28:46 AM PDT by r9etb
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Ray Nagin, the chocolate mayor of the chocolate city - Robert Mugabe the chocolate president of a chocolate country.

The only difference is in carryng out the intent. Here Nagin has the federal government to rob the productive citizens to support his electorate of parasites. In Zimbabwe, the thieves have to steal directly. Here we have a second amendment that gives the citizens a chance to fight back (althogh nagin's jackbooted goons did go door to door violating citizens' right during the emergency - ever notice the police never have a problem in violating peoples' fundamental rights)

When liberals look at Zimbabwe they don't see a holocaust, they see their ideal state where government bureaucrats have everything and private citizens have nothing. Hillary's and Rudy's wet dream of America.

15 posted on 03/13/2007 10:41:02 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government)
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