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Ok, look -- we're all in agreement here about this. If you're arguing *against* astronomers who don't believe that all mass in the universe is significant, then you win. We all agree with you.
That doesn't argue against "heliocentrism", but you did win the point in grand style.
In fact, the idea that the mass of the rest of the universe doesn't matter is a hallmark of "geocentrism", which believes that the Earth is fixed at the center of the universe and unaffected by all that gravity.
So if your point is that all the matter in the universe is important, that all that gravity has to be taken into account, you're actuallly arguing *against* geocentrists, and *for* the heliocentrist view.
Isn't that ironic?
I'm just trying to understand your statements. They simply aren't accurate and that isn't my problem. And are you sure that you have been anointed to speak for everyone? I don't remember that.
"That doesn't argue against "heliocentrism", but you did win the point in grand style.
As for arguing against heliocentrism, I don't see how ignoring all of the mass in the universe doesn't argue against it. Why not ignore the motions of distant galactic structures as as being evidence that the theory of gravity is wrong and invoke invisible mass to rescue the existing theory? Uh, never mind... already been done.
"In fact, the idea that the mass of the rest of the universe doesn't matter is a hallmark of "geocentrism", which believes that the Earth is fixed at the center of the universe and unaffected by all that gravity."
Again, you misrepresent geocentricity as something exactly the opposite of what I have been saying. Why don't you take your own advice and listen to what I'm telling you.
"So if your point is that all the matter in the universe is important, that all that gravity has to be taken into account, you're actuallly arguing *against* geocentrists, and *for* the heliocentrist view."
That's only true if your strawman misrepresentation of geocentrism is true. I have clearly explained to you that your misconceptions are wrong. Why won't you listen?
"Isn't that ironic?"
That you misrepresent geocentrism and won't listen?