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Hidden dealers of sudden death (UK-Snipers)
http://news.scotsman.com/ ^ | Sat 17 Mar 2007 | IN KAJAKI

Posted on 03/16/2007 11:22:12 PM PDT by chasio649

THEY had been waiting since before dawn, dug into a makeshift hide, almost half a mile behind enemy lines.

The four Royal Marine Commando snipers sat huddled in the dark, scouring a Taleban compound through the scopes on their L96A1 sniper rifles.

They had been watching the target since before dawn. The order to fire came an hour after first light. They levelled their bolt-action, single-shot rifles at two Taleban sentries less than 250 metres away. Village dogs were barking but the insurgents never saw their killers.

The marines counted down from five, in unison, and the crack of four bullets rang out as one. The two sentries fell down dead. Confirmed kills: two, collateral damage: zero, and the snipers withdrew.

"They [the other Taleban] were looking around for us but they couldn't find us. We could see them and they weren't very happy," Corporal Simon, 36, told The Scotsman.

The snipers do such a sensitive job that few have been interviewed before, and those interviewed by this newspaper would only use their first names.

The sentries became the 39th and 40th kills of the elite and ultra-secretive Intelligence, Surveillance, Target Acquisition and Reconnaissance (ISTAR) unit who, for the last six months, have been operating as part of 42 Commando in Helmand prov-ince. "We are the sharp end of the needle," Corporal Simon said.

The Taleban fighters killed during an operation this week had been based in the village of Olehabad, three-and-a-half kilometres from the marines' remote outpost at Kajaki.

Kajaki is the site of a dam and hydroelectric plant and is in desperate need of refurbishment. The USAID organisation is funding a project to add another turbine but before work can begin, it has insisted that a 6km safety zone is established. So far, marine commandos have cleared a 3km area outside the dam, but beyond that the Taleban are still very much in control.

It is outside this area that the snipers are at their most effective. Under cover of darkness, they patrol into position, dig a hide and wait. They fire off only a few shots before withdrawing.

They are backed up by a troop of marines who hide nearby and they also have a fire-support team travelling in highly mobile, heavily armed, open-topped Land Rovers to call upon.

On the latest operation, as the marine snipers were extracting themselves, they were ambushed from several directions by Taleban insurgents, who at times were as close as 200 meters. Smoke mortars were fired from a nearby hill and the snipers got back to base safely.

"As we collapsed our position we knew we were getting flanked and were ambushed and pinned down with small arms for a bit," said the corporal. The snipers' job in Afghanistan is made more difficult because Taleban rebels routinely use women and children as shields. They have also been known to dress as women and hide weapons under shawls.

"I've seen a fighter sitting on a motorbike with a woman and a kid on the back ... that's the hardest thing, finding the target," said the corporal. "I have a wife and kid, too, and I don't want to take the shot if I'm going to hit the wrong person."

The elite Royal Marine snipers take every precaution to ensure the man in their crosshairs is the one they want. All have graduated from Commando sniper school, considered the best course of its kind in the world.

"We have a pass rate of only 30 per cent - it's tough to get through," said Marine Ben, 22.

"The Royal Marine sniper school is the best in the world," added Marine Brendan, also just 22.

• THE L96A1 sniper rifle used by British forces in Afghanistan is manufactured by the Portsmouth company Accuracy International.

It was purpose-built for sniping, rather than being a variant of an existing weapon.

The company says it uses performance enhancing features learned in Olympic and international target shooting in the design of its weapons.

Accurate to a range of 1,000 metres, the rifle can shoot groups of 7.62mm bullets in a 51mm radius at 550 metres. It is generally fitted with a Schmidt & Bender 6 x 42 scope.

It has special de-icing features allowing it to be used effectively at temperatures as low as -40C. The stockhole, bolt, magazine release and trigger guard are large enough to be easily used while wearing heavy gloves.

The L96A1 is recognised as one of the best sniper rifles in the world and is used by the armed forces of Australia, Belgium, Germany, Ireland, the Netherlands and Singapore.


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; United Kingdom; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: oneshotonekill; snipers; wot
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1 posted on 03/16/2007 11:22:15 PM PDT by chasio649
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This sounds bad, but they wouldn't use women and children for shields if we just shot through them. =-\


2 posted on 03/16/2007 11:29:07 PM PDT by miliantnutcase ("If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. If it stops moving, subsidize it." -ichabod1)
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Pix, where are the pix of the L96A1 sniper rifle?


3 posted on 03/16/2007 11:29:57 PM PDT by MHGinTN (If you've had life support. Promote life support for others.)
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To: miliantnutcase

best put on the flame retardent suit


4 posted on 03/16/2007 11:30:32 PM PDT by Nailbiter
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Well here we go ...


5 posted on 03/16/2007 11:32:41 PM PDT by MHGinTN (If you've had life support. Promote life support for others.)
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To: Nailbiter

*pulling up asbestos pants*


6 posted on 03/16/2007 11:33:50 PM PDT by miliantnutcase ("If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. If it stops moving, subsidize it." -ichabod1)
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To: MHGinTN

That looks like an AWM/AWP. What's the difference between them?


7 posted on 03/16/2007 11:35:41 PM PDT by miliantnutcase ("If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. If it stops moving, subsidize it." -ichabod1)
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To: chasio649
the rifle can shoot groups of 7.62mm bullets in a 51mm radius at 550 metres.

Ain't the metric system wonderful?

8 posted on 03/16/2007 11:41:55 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy ("Red Meat. We were meant to eat it")
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To: chasio649
If America ever fell completely, I would fight for England.

think Magna Carta
9 posted on 03/17/2007 12:58:34 AM PDT by RunningWolf (2-1 Cav 1975)
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To: miliantnutcase
This sounds bad, but they wouldn't use women and children for shields if we just shot through them.

I have a buddy who had to go to therapy three times a week for a year after he mistakenly shot a woman and her kid in Afghanistan.

Heh. Used to call him "shooter" before that, but it was a little too cruel to call him that after he got back. Thankfully, a new opportunity presented itself after he got his girlfriend knocked-up and we nicknamed him "pops" or sometimes "daddy-o".

10 posted on 03/17/2007 1:05:40 AM PDT by Zeroisanumber (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: miliantnutcase
This sounds bad, but they wouldn't use women and children for shields if we just shot through them. =-\

That is one reason we need to redefine war crimes in the WOT

11 posted on 03/17/2007 1:34:00 AM PDT by Charlespg (Peace= When we trod the ruins of Mecca and Medina under our infidel boots.)
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two Taleban sentries less than 250 metres away

Less than 250 metres away and that is sniping? They were right in pretty close unless they had a good get away plan..

There is a whole lot more to their story going on there than their marksmanship IMO
12 posted on 03/17/2007 1:36:47 AM PDT by RunningWolf (2-1 Cav 1975)
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As we collapsed our position we knew we were getting flanked and were ambushed and pinned down with small arms for a bit," said the corporal

Something definitely seems to be wrong with allied sniping these days. In the past, whenever I've read about some western sniper getting into a fix, it has been because he has met an equal. Now days, our snipers seem to be getting spotted and harried by what ever incompetent that runs their way.

13 posted on 03/17/2007 1:52:16 AM PDT by Ajnin (Neca Eos Omnes. Deus Suos Agnoset.)
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To: chasio649
L96A1 is a 10 or 12 shot magazine fed weapon, not a single shot. Accuracy International states rifle is fitted with Henshold telescope, not that this makes any difference.

As far as shooting through human shields goes, the 7.62 ball will go through a couple of shields out to 500 meters. If we did shoot through them, their use would soon become unpopular.

14 posted on 03/17/2007 3:59:12 AM PDT by Lion Den Dan
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we knew we were getting flanked and were ambushed and pinned dow

I don't understand, sounds like this turned into a firefight where our guys were retreating. If there are enough of them to fire back, wouldn't that invite some kind of counter-trap or ambush? Wouldn't we or the Brits be interested in setting things up so that bad guys shooting at UK snipers would in effect be inviting thier own demise?

Hunker down in a fort and sneak out to snipe at an enemy that shoots back vigroously. My ignorance must be showing.

15 posted on 03/17/2007 4:55:47 AM PDT by Tom Bombadil
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To: Lion Den Dan
The media exposure to an accepted policy for shooting through women and children would effectively end the war and ruin any sympathy to the American efforts for a long time.
16 posted on 03/17/2007 5:08:39 AM PDT by DainBramage
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To: chasio649
They levelled their bolt-action, single-shot rifles at two Taleban sentries less than 250 metres away.

A couple of issues on this posting:

1. "bolt-action, single-shot rifles" don't have storage for additional bullets, like the single-shot 22 cal I had when I was 14 years old. There you load each bullet by hand for each shot. These rifles have magazines to hold additional shells. Noted, they are not "automatic rifles".

2. Why shoot the sentries? Why not wait for those being guarded? Seems like a small kill, with all due respect, as they say in "Jolly Ol' England".

17 posted on 03/17/2007 5:10:45 AM PDT by jws3sticks (Hillary can take a very long walk on a very short pier, anytime, and the sooner the better!)
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To: chasio649

Sentries have got to be a very low grade target.


18 posted on 03/17/2007 5:13:57 AM PDT by TweetEBird007
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To: RunningWolf
Less than 250 metres away and that is sniping? They were right in pretty close unless they had a good get away plan.. There is a whole lot more to their story going on there than their marksmanship IMO

Four snipers to take out two "sentries?" And from service rifle distance?

Doesn't pass the smell test...

19 posted on 03/17/2007 5:19:16 AM PDT by papertyger
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To: chasio649
The marines counted down from five, in unison, and the crack of four bullets rang out as one...

I wept that was so beautiful.

20 posted on 03/17/2007 5:34:29 AM PDT by IllumiNaughtyByNature (When Can We expect a Movie about Milli Vanilli?)
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