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To: bkepley
"He had no business getting his family involved in such a thing. If he wanted to go out in a blaze of glory he should have gone alone."
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Like in most police car chases.... the best thing to do is to actually back off a bit... keep the perp under surveillance.... wait till he cools down a bit and slows down.... and then apprehend him when it scales tip towards the LEO's advantage thus lessening the risk to others in the vicinity.

With Weaver....set up a scout team or two at a distance and wait a month, or two... or what ever.... until he comes out of his little compound and then pinch him when he's on his way back into town on a dirt road out in the middle of bubble-fook.

Weavers "situation" just proves how stupid it is to have a military response to a nut ball holed up in his home......just government trying to play Rambo and try out some new toys...
11 posted on 03/17/2007 7:52:47 AM PDT by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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To: taxed2death
With Weaver....set up a scout team or two at a distance and wait a month, or two... or what ever.... until he comes out of his little compound and then pinch him when he's on his way back into town on a dirt road out in the middle of bubble-fook.

Aside from the original entrapment and subsequently sending Weaver notice to appear, then holding the hearing onthe original charge a month earlier than the notice said, they did have the hill under surveillance.

Apparently the family dogs smelled the team, and thinking it was a deer, Weaver's son and a dog took one route down the hill after meat for the larder, Weaver and Harris took another (with rifles to hunt with).

The kid and dog came across the surveillance team, the dog was shot, the kid allegedly returned fire, kiling a US marshall. The kid was fatally wounded in the firefight--according to most accounts--shot in the back.

Now, with all that,would you be willing to trust the government?

Had it not been for Bo Gritz and a host of protestors, Weaver would have been Wacoed.

Too many witnesses, even locals videotaping parts of the operation from adjacent ridges, made things sticky for even the FBI.

They learned, though, and controlled the press when the Waco operation went down other than they (ATF) intended, and moved the press off a couple of miles where they could control access on entirely different terrain.

In Weaver's case the argument can be made that the original entrapment was to pressure Weaver into turning 'snitch' for the FBI, attending seperatist group functions in the region, and reporting on them . When Weaver would not turn informant nder pressure, things started getting really ugly.

65 posted on 03/17/2007 8:40:36 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: taxed2death

Totally agree with your assessment.....


374 posted on 03/28/2007 4:56:55 AM PDT by auto power
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