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To: spunkets

Actually you are quoting scripture for your own devices.

None of those quotes mean what you think they say.

The first is a claim of forgiveness upon all people. Jesus basically saying that all sin is forgivable if you ask for the forgiveness.

The second I'm not sure how that relates at all.

The third can actually be a claim of not knowing Christianity as well. You could use it as assuming one doesn't know the different between right and wrong.. however few mentally ill people actually have that distinction. Those who are stricken with anxiety or depression still understand the difference between right and wrong. Even psychopaths even know the different between right and wrong. They just don't care.

You better come up with better stuff than that.


20 posted on 03/21/2007 8:24:59 PM PDT by Almondjoy
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To: Almondjoy
"Actually you are quoting scripture for your own devices. "

Ridiculous.

"None of those quotes mean what you think they say. "

Of course not.

"The first is a claim of forgiveness upon all people."

No. God forgave only those that didn't know what they were doing, not those that did, or that claimed they did. He did not, as John 9 points out, forgive those that claimed they could see. Nor, did He forgive Judas.

"Jesus basically saying that all sin is forgivable if you ask for the forgiveness."

He says that in other places, and asks that one everyone forgive others, as he did. He forgives, regardless of being asked. All sin is not forgivable. Those that don't forgive others reject the Holy Spirit, and those that reject the Holy Spirit are not forgiven. Matthew 12:32
"Anyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but anyone who speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come."

Re: "That's facinating. So even if they murder they get a free pass? They automatically get to go to heaven while we all have to work for it? Could you point that out in the bible for me."

"The second I'm not sure how that relates at all. "

Obviously, as I said, folks that don't have the capacity can not know. If they are blind, they are forgiven. God looks at how others judge them, and judges those folks accordingly.

"The third can actually be a claim of not knowing Christianity as well. "

God judges based on how one's own Spirit compares to the Holy Spirit. Those are forgiven as the blind are, unless they have effectively rejected the Holy Spirit.

"You could use it as assuming one doesn't know the different between right and wrong.. however few mentally ill people actually have that distinction. Those who are stricken with anxiety or depression still understand the difference between right and wrong."

You don't have a clue about how the mind works, and you accuse others that are born with impediments of being sinners. You're a faith healer that panders mumbo jumbo, not a physician. You don't even have the least of a rudimentary grasp of the subject, so don't play one. You've failed to even grasp what God said in the passages I wrote to you.

"Even psychopaths even know the different between right and wrong. They just don't care."

Your ignorance is glaring. It depends on the disease.

"You better come up with better stuff than that."

whatever.

22 posted on 03/22/2007 2:13:07 PM PDT by spunkets ("Freedom is about authority", Rudy Giuliani, gun grabber)
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