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To: rabscuttle385
By promoting excessive individualism and a perverted sense of freedom we have become limitless, spoiled children

Exactly. Down with libertarianism!

Seriously though, excessive, radical individualism is as dangerous to our liberties as excessive government. Your neighbour who won't restrain his own behaviour is as oppressive as a government that won't restrain itself. The commonwealth exists to preserve the liberties of its constituent citizens, and by engaging in behaviours which undermine the commonwealth as a whole, an individual really is making an attack upon the liberty of each and every other individual in the commonwealth.

4 posted on 03/20/2007 10:33:49 AM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (The anti-libertarian Neo-Ciceronian)
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus
Seriously though, excessive, radical individualism is as dangerous to our liberties as excessive government.

Nonsense!
You can fight an individual who treads on your liberty.
You can't fight government.
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5 posted on 03/20/2007 10:51:48 AM PDT by mugs99 (Don't take life too seriously, you won't get out alive.)
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus
You make a good communitarian. Hoodwinked and champion. Sacrifice the individual in whole or in part for the supposed greater good of the group. The ends' justify the means, right? Enlist government agents to act on your behalf to initiate force/harm against persons that are minding there own business without initiating force against anyone. Legislating morality wherein the supposed morality includes initiating harm/force against persons and their property. Private contracts be damned! Social engineering and micro management has delivered this...

Virtually everyone is already a criminal and for sure all CEOs and business owners are. An average 3,000 new federal laws and regulations each year ensures it. Yet better than 95% of the populace doesn't initiate force, threat of force or fraud against any person or their property.

Objective law. When a person thinks they have been harmed they can take the suspect to court and do their best to convince an impartial jury that they have been harmed and to what extent so that you may gain restitution for your loss.

8 posted on 03/20/2007 11:11:33 AM PDT by Zon (Honesty outlives the lie, spin and deception -- It always has -- It always will.)
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