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To: robertpaulsen
What's theoretical about defending yourself with a stick instead of a gun? I'd really like you to explain yourself.

If you can ban the gun, you can ban the stick as well. And the use of the fist, and the defiant glare, etc., until the actual ability to defend the self is gone, with only the theory remaining. Then, there are the real world examples of 8 year olds defending their families with a handgun from home invaders, murderers and rapists. You think a stick would suffice in more than theory?

It's a bit more than property, is it not? Render it incapable of ever firing and I'll defend your right to own it as property. Deal?

No deal. It's a tool, just like a table saw or a computer. It is designed to accomplish a needed task, and rendering it incapable of the task negates the reason to possess it as property. Not only that, but it is a class of property that is specifically singled out as something the people can keep, without infringement.

But, tell you what, you can own any house you want, as long as it is unfit for habitation. Deal?

It's called the police power of a state. Look it up. Educate yourself.

Police power, like all governmental powers, are delegated to the State by the people. The power to infringe on the RKBA is specifically not delegated. Therefore, that is an illegitimate use of police power.

Then that would interfere with the defense of the country, which then makes it a national issue..

So, you think the defense of the Nation is what is not to be infringed by the government in the 2nd A.? The Government is not to be allowed to prevent the Government from defending itself?

337 posted on 03/21/2007 3:45:54 PM PDT by LexBaird (98% satisfaction guaranteed. There's just no pleasing some people.)
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To: LexBaird
"Police power, like all governmental powers, are delegated to the State by the people."

I told you to look it up, didn't I? Now look how foolish you appear.

Police power is inherent to a state. When a state is formed, it has police power. It's part of the definition of a state. It's not delegated. It just is.

Lazy.

"Police power is the capacity of a state to regulate behaviors and enforce order within its territory, often framed in terms of public welfare, security, morality, and safety. Police power is legally considered an inherent right, and is limited only by prohibitions specified in the constitution of a state, making it the most expansive authority exercised by a state.

The concept of police power (or simply "police") in English common law dates back at least four centuries and roughly coincides with the breakdown of the feudal order in Europe and the development of towns and cities (polis)."

"you think the defense of the Nation is what is not to be infringed"

No, I was answering your question. If a state disarms its citizens, it cannot contribute to the national defense, thereby interfering with Congress' ability to call forth the Militia.

352 posted on 03/21/2007 4:13:08 PM PDT by robertpaulsen
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