Posted on 03/22/2007 11:28:22 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
Twist and shout LN from MT.
I wonder if you represent yourself truthfully.
There you go again being all polite.
What cheerleaders? I merely want someone proficient at English to explain to me what you wrote in that specific sentence.
Look, I'm sorry you are having a rough day. generally, when I am having a bad day like you obviously are, i don't post at FR. You may want to do the same. Just friendly advice, mind you!
Have a nice day!
"Something is really beginning to worry them. "
I think it's the buzz surrounding fred thompson that is taking away from the rudy express. And fred hasn't even declared eyt.
Who were the two that were banned?
Dear Flash. I post the threads to get debate, something that has totally escaped you. With your hate and badgering, debate and comment is impossible. Is that your objective? Do you have no other purpose on this site than to be a cheerleader for discourse?
From the actual transcript -
"-Freedom is about authority. Freedom is about the willingness of every single human being to cede to lawful authority a great deal of discretion about what you do.
[ Interruption by someone in the audience. ]
You have free speech so I can be heard.
[ Another interruption. ] -"
Apparently, someone in the audience saw the same danger in his words!
Freedom can't be about authority, because authority always ends up taking our freedoms.
One was 'beansox'
Lied about so many things she couldn't keep it all straight.
She denied supporting Rudy,but had a link to her myspace page, which had, among other disturbing items, a link to a Rudy campaign site.
I'd have to go back and look for the other. I've fogotten the screen name, but he admitted to being banned twice before!
My mistake.
Lacey13 was yesterday's troll.
I took your question to be rhetorical as is plainly evident in how it was phrased and structured. You made obscure references with false choices. Maybe that style works with others, but I 'aint buying.
On a different note, I am disturbed by the general tenor of this thread. It has devolved into ad hominem attacks that are unnecessary and counterproductive. My suspicion is that there may be DU trolls/teen aged twits out there. However, I also think that there are more than a few cantankerous egotists who would rather cause trouble than engage in constructive conversation.
I am not a Rudy supporter at this point in time. I would like to see what Fred Thompson and Sam Brownback have to offer. I am not fond of McCain, Romney and some of the obscure folks like Duncan Hunter, as wonderful a conservative as he may be. However, as I have stated on numerous threads I will vote for any of these people if nomonated by the Republican party.
If anyone thinks that a Hillary or Obama Osama win will be a moral victory for "true" conservatism, they are either dangerously delusional or actually rooting for the other side.
If debate is your intent, why the snide personal attacks?
With your hate and badgering, debate and comment is impossible.
Oh, really? Then why not stop posting? If all you have to say is insults, you've failed at your goal "to get debate".
"I took your question to be rhetorical as is plainly evident in how it was phrased and structured. You made obscure references with false choices. Maybe that style works with others, but I 'aint buying."
No I was being dead serious, Nothing rhetorical at all.
If you lose your freedoms and liberties, does it really matter if there is an R a D or an I in front of the name of the dictator the takes them from you?
They may as well just cut to the chase and put either a "C" or an "N" next to their names.
Dictators hate and despise Liberty. They couch their stance and policies in feel good politics that caters to those who have not studied history and do not see their despicable acts for what they are. Fascism and Communism.
Bump for the truth!
My history on FR hasn't been being known as nasty, so you'll have to smear me some other way.
"With your hate and badgering, debate and comment is impossible. Is that your objective? Do you have no other purpose on this site than to be a cheerleader for discourse?"
My hate? For what? Liberals? Ok, I guess I hate them because they are enemies of one of the greatest gifts the Creator gave us - individual human freedom. So I have a great deal of disdain for those who would strip people of that gift.
"debate and comment is impossible."
Debate may be impossible for you, but not for me. I concentrate on two things:
1. The issues: The meat of the matter. Records, statements, meaning, context of those things with the greater record and the principles behind the founding of this country.
2. Debating tactics and technique: If someone is avoiding real debate on the issues by adopting liberal tactics like changing the subject, incorrectly attributing quotes or actions to a poster (see your claim that I was holding out for a "pure" candidate), I most certainly will point that out. I find it unacceptable and detrimental. I will also go after double standards - accepting statements and actions a politician of one party when they wouldn't accept those same actions from a politican in another party.
I'm not sure why you're getting so upset at me and the other posters merely because we don't accept explanations and claims from a guy with an (R) by his name at face value.
You see, I don't believe in personality or party over principle. Principle is the most important thing, which is why I will go after someone with a (R) by their name if they're behaving like a liberal. It's why I will draw attention to a poster who has adopted the tactics of the left to make excuses for a liberal republican.
Party and personality are merely vehicles for the advancement of principles. It's not the other way around. I believe you have to go for your principles first and then find the personality and the party that will best advance those principles. The worst thing I could ever do is settle on a personality in the name of political expediency (HE CAN BEAT HILLARY) when that personality goes against most of the principles I believe in.
"Do you have no other purpose on this site than to be a cheerleader for discourse?""
dis·course n.
1. Verbal expression in speech or writing.
2. Verbal exchange; conversation.
3. A formal, lengthy discussion of a subject, either written or spoken.
4. Archaic. The process or power of reasoning.
Well, I guess I would be guilty of being a cheerleader for discourse, because it is vital for advancement of the conservative / limited government agenda. That's what the conservatives do - they discuss and debate principles and results in order to have a "best of breed" position. That's what built the conservative movement. So color me guilty of being a cheerleader of discourse.
But I guess my most egregious assault on the conscious of those who push liberals is my constant cheerleading for individual freedom and respecting the originalist view of the constitution that made this country great. And I'm also guilty of failing to support people with (R)'s next to their name who are hostile to those things.
Sorry if all that offends you. But from everything I've read, that is why this site is here, so this is why I'm here at this site.
That was done well enough on post # 149 by Leatherneck MT.
But perhaps you can explain to me - what debate were you attempting to engage in by posting this?
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What planet do you orbit?
110 posted on 03/22/2007 4:32:45 PM EDT by Cincinatus' Wife"
Did you have a point, or were you just trying to avoid having to respond sensibly to my comment on post # 103 about post # 22?
Douche chills alert.
Thank you for proving my point.
Your Myspace page is screwed up. It is misaligned to the right and there is no horizontal scrollbar on there. Plus, I wanted to see some pictures of you to see if you're hot, but couldn't find any.
"I wasnt banned."
Well it says you are now.
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