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Mexican truck plan hits snag in Senate
AP on Yahoo ^ | 3/22/07 | AP

Posted on 03/22/2007 9:31:11 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

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To: ReformedBeckite
I'm sure that our political elite are well invested in those select companies with the cheap labor pool that comes with them. One problem of many problems with this is that it is not reciprocal yet, with American trucking companies driving into Mexico.

Establishing a trading block is one thing, diluting our culture and laws with an open border is another. I understand what you are saying, the dollar has fallen against the Euro and this will lower our standard of living. Depressing wages with cheap, imported labor has the same net effect in living standards except there are more collateral issues to deal with. Sound fiscal policy would do far more for the dollar then creating a slave labor class.

21 posted on 03/23/2007 5:20:15 AM PDT by Colorado Doug
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To: Buffalo Bob

Don't forget Public Citizen. Isn't that Ralph Nader's group?


22 posted on 03/23/2007 5:23:33 AM PDT by Colorado Doug
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To: OpusatFR
True. Mexico is a cesspool of Napoleonic law. You're guilty until prove innocent in their courts. It is a closed society run by European Elitist types. There are so many things that have to be changed in Mexico on a fundamental level that this charade of fair and even handed trading partners is a joke.
23 posted on 03/23/2007 7:22:22 AM PDT by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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To: conservative in nyc
"Someone has to transport the goods we buy from Mexico."

Hopefully in a safe vehicle, with proper insurance, with an understanding of our laws - and consideration for them.
Hopefully, having been inspected at the border and, ideally, not willing and able to haul ass back to mexico after any altercation, accident, or infringement.

Maybe next vacation you could come out this way and spend some time on the freeways with both the mexican trucks and the mexican truck drivers we deal with daily.

24 posted on 03/23/2007 9:01:07 AM PDT by norton
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To: Buffalo Bob
"Teamsters are the ones on the correct side of the issue"

You sure are naive.

If the Teamsters were give an inside track at organizing the Mexican drivers, those trucks would be rolling tommorrow.

25 posted on 03/23/2007 9:27:39 AM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: Buffalo Bob
No, the obvious is more likely true. Something is wrong when you are on the same side as the Teamsters. As for Public Citizen, that's just typical. Protectionists and Leftists believe in the same conclusions, they simply arrive at them differently.
26 posted on 03/23/2007 9:31:37 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: OpusatFR

Agreed, the structures are not the same between our countries.
What will become of our constitution? Second ammendment will have to be gone. Lose that and you've lost.
Period.


27 posted on 03/23/2007 12:32:11 PM PDT by kactus
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To: ReformedBeckite

If you think these trucks are only coming 100 miles into the country, I don't think you've done your homework. That 16 lane super-highway proposed from the Mexican border to Kansas City is more than 100 miles long, I believe. Also, they don't need a freeway several football fields wide to just accommodate just 100 trucking companies. They're building a superport in Mexico that's going to suck all the Pacific shipping into Mexico instead of our own West Coast ports. Also, there will be thousands of places for those trucks to stop and unload their drugs, contraband and Illegals before they get to Kansas City. The trucks and their contents will not be inspected until they reach Kansas City (if they haven't emptied out the contents well before then.


29 posted on 03/23/2007 5:26:35 PM PDT by holyscroller (A wise man's heart directs him toward the right, but the foolish man's heart directs him to the left)
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To: babygene; NormsRevenge; hedgetrimmer; FITZ; A. Pole; All

2 truck drivers charged with smuggling migrants (Here comes the Mexican Trucks!! filled with goods)

http://www.elpasotimes.com/news/ci_5510822

Two truckers were arrested and a "drop house" was raided in immigrant smuggling cases in the El Paso area this week, a U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement spokeswoman said on Friday.

On Wednesday morning, the Border Enforcement Security Task Force, or BEST, stopped two 18-wheelers on Interstate 10 near Vado after agents spotted the drivers letting two men into one cab and another man into the other cab at a truck stop, ICE spokeswoman Leticia Zamarripa said.

The three immigrants, found hiding in the sleeper sections, told investigators they each paid $1,800 to be smuggled to Los Angeles. Truck drivers Julio Cesar Cazabal Gutierrez, 34, and Javier Nolasco Sanchez, 26, were arrested on charges of conspiracy to transport undocumented aliens, which is punishable by up to five years in prison.

On Tuesday, ICE agents discovered 16 immigrants in an apartment in the 1100 block of Seventh Street in El Paso's Segundo Barrio, officials said. Agents arrested alleged smugglers Iris Guereca, 20, of El Paso, and Rene Raul Taylor Lopez, 20, and Francisco Alejandro Lopez Vasquez, 21, who are Mexican citizens in the U.S. illegally.

The immigrants were from the Mexico City area and paid $1,500 to $2,000 to be taken to California, Wisconsin and other states, officials said.

Most of the immigrants were returned to Mexico.


30 posted on 03/24/2007 9:42:11 AM PDT by AuntB (" It takes more than walking across the border to be an American." Duncan Hunter)
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To: AuntB

Just wait for the trans-texas corridor. They'll use their 'fast pass' and the open border pipeline will become a floodgate.


31 posted on 03/24/2007 12:15:51 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer (I'm a billionaire! Thanks WTO and the "free trade" system!--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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To: ReformedBeckite

"One is to let the Mexican trucks from only 100 controlled companies into the country"

FYI, they are "cherry picking" the companies that are allowed in.


FYI, the current reg's permit a 20 mile "free Trade" zone that foreign trucks may operate in. BUT, there are loopholes in that and, the "effective" area is actually 100 miles.


FYI, I DO NOT support this action, by any stretch of the imagination. Just presenting some facts. However the reg's, current and proposed, only allow for one way trips. That is...they may bring freight to deliver here, and pick up a load that delivers in Mexico, they may not "operate" here. Same rules apply to Canadians, and to Americans operating on foreign soil. Problem is the Canadians have shown, and I would imagine we do it as well, they can violate this reg. without any worry of being caught, at all. Why would the Mexicans be any different?

In case some of you haven't noticed, the U.S. is now officially a "consumer" Nation. We consume MORE than we produce. This puts us in a very, very, bad spot.

We need to bring back more manufacturing into our Country. We need to take another look at "free trade" that is not "free". The rules are so lopsided against us, it's sickening.

:O)

P


32 posted on 03/24/2007 12:32:05 PM PDT by papasmurf (Join Team 36120 Free Republic Folders. Folding@Home Enter Name:FRpapasmurf)
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To: ReformedBeckite
Your argument makes good sense, problem is dealing with the Mexicon govt. is like dealing with Iran or other terrorist countries. You can't believe a word they say.

I say as soon as the Mexicon govt. stops issuing phamplets on how to invade the us, stops it's major drug smuggling into the US and stops urging it's people to cross the border, steal our jobs use our welfare system and all the other great things they do, that us citizens just don't want to do, then I will agree with you.
33 posted on 03/24/2007 12:41:49 PM PDT by rodguy911 (Support The New media, Ticket the Drive-bys, --America-The land of the Free because of the Brave-)
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To: conservative in nyc
I used to drive for a major trucking company that had a terminal 2 miles inside the American border with Mexico in Laredo, TX. The Mexican drivers would pull our trailers to our terminal (loaded with General Motors sub-assemblies) and we would hook up to them and drag them to GM in either Detroit or East Lansing, MI.

We would leave Michigan with trailers loaded with GM piece parts to drag back to our Laredo terminal so a Mexican driver could take the trailer south of the border so Mexican labor could build more sub-assemblies so we could drag them back to Michigan.

It was a never ending cycle. Now you know one of the big reasons your two thousand dollar Chevy cost you twenty thousand dollars today.

34 posted on 03/27/2007 4:44:01 PM PDT by Brownie74
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