Posted on 03/24/2007 7:38:43 AM PDT by mborman
It is almost certain that Portugal will join the list of Catholic countries that have legalized abortion. After an inexpressive referendum, the socialist government presented a projected bill that was approved by the Portuguese Parliament on March 8. Only an unlikely veto by President Cavaco Silva, regarded as a conservative, can prevent the bill from becoming law.
The sad part is that the Portuguese Catholic bishops avoided throwing the full weight of their prestige onto the scale in a country with an absolute Catholic majority. During the abortion referendum, the bishops took a non-confrontational attitude. They simply recalled documents and articles published in the Catholic press about the so-called voluntary interruption of pregnancy, but avoided taking a position regarding the referendum.
Even worse, the bishops recommended that parish priests take the same attitude: They could recall Catholic doctrine on abortion but could not argue or take a position on the referendum itself.
In addition, the episcopate voluntarily refrained from struggling for a “No” vote in the referendum, which would have defeated abortion. It left the decision entirely in the hands of the laity, who acted on their own initiative and responsibility.
In video footage and photographs of the lay-sponsored pro-life demonstrations, no bishop, priest or nun is to be seen. News items about these events make no mention of the presence of clergy and men or women religious.
Furthermore, the Cardinal Patriarch of Lisbon, His Eminence José Policarpo da Silva, made a number of surprisingly ambiguous statements, giving to understand that abortion was not a religious topic. And although he later denied having made such statements, he repeated the same affirmations in a recent interview after the referendum.1
However, there was no ambivalence or hesitation on the left. The socialist government, leftist parties, pro-abortion organizations and the liberal media set in motion a huge propaganda machine to favor liberalizing abortion laws.
It was as if two armies were about to engage in battle: The first is much more numerous. It has more effective weapons but its generals stay in the rearguard and recommend extreme prudence, caution and meekness to their troops. On the other hand, the enemy army, though smaller and not as well armed, has feisty generals who rally their troops and foster their enthusiasm and combativeness. The result of such a battle would be inevitable: certain defeat for the fearful, and victory for those enthused and resolved to fight.
That is what happened in the Portuguese referendum: In spite of the fact that abstention was great, the pro-abortion “Yes” vote ended up by winning. And although the referendum was not binding because less than half of the voters showed up, the socialist government immediately decided to present a pro-abortion bill, which was approved.
After the defeat of the “No” vote in the referendum, the attitude of the Portuguese bishops was again extremely moderate.2 They lamented the victory of abortion and recalled that its practice clashes with Catholic doctrine, but avoided to note that all those who do practice abortion (such as the mother and the doctors and nurses that carry it out) incur automatic excommunication; and that other necessary accomplices are also subject to canonical penalties.3
Though affirming that abortion, even when legal, remains a grave sin, the bishops failed to warn pro-abortion Catholics that defending abortion is a negation of the first principle of natural and revealed morals4 and therefore that they are unfit to receive Holy Communion.5
After the unfavorable result of the referendum, the Cardinal Patriarch of Lisbon gave an interview to the magazine Visão, appearing completely relaxed and unconcerned with the huge sin about to be committed in Portugal with the establishment of abortion. His moderation was so extreme that, were it not for the contradiction in terms, it could be called “radical.”
Asked whether the result of the referendum was not a defeat for the Church, he answered:
“Right in the beginning of the public discussion, I launched the idea that abortion is not, fundamentally, a religious question. It is a human and cultural question. [A question] of civilization. The defenders of the “No” may not coincide with the practicing Catholic Church...”
It was precisely this kind of statement that caused immense perplexity in the Catholic ranks of abortion opponents, as well as jubilee among pro-abortion forces.
The journalist asked the Cardinal: “The pastoral note published after the referendum invites those ‘who stayed away from this debate’ to an ‘interior reflection’ ... why does it not speak of excommunication?”
In answering the question, the Cardinal, first criticized a Portuguese priest favorable to excommunication, and then added:
“Canonical sanctions apply to persons who have an abortion or contribute directly to it. It is certain that, above all in the USA, there was a current to which some bishops were linked, that broadened that censure to people who publicly defended abortion. I think this is too broad an interpretation of Canon Law. At this moment, it is not good to create stigmas...”
In fact, St. Louis’Archbishop Raymond Burke has made clear, that neither he nor the other bishops who agree with denying Holy Communion to pro-abortion politicians are doing so on the basis of the canon on abortion (Canon 1398). Their argumentation is based on the public and notorious dissidence of these politicians with an infallible doctrine of the Church – that is to say, the intrinsic evil of procured abortion. This dissidence constitutes a manifest public sin (Canon 915).6
The essence of the Fatima message, whose 90th anniversary is commemorated this year (along with the centennial of Sister Lucy’s birth) is that a punishment will come if men do not convert. The legalization of abortion is a public sin that cannot but attract Divine wrath. And the earthquake that was felt in Portugal the day following the victory of the “Yes” seems like a warning of what may happen.
They are totally clueless to the fact that this "attitude" will require an explanation to our Maker!
The answer.
They are SOCIALISTS!! That's why!! Socialists belive in NO GOD!
The Iberian Penninsula (Spain and Portugal) are being overrun by a Moslem population from North Africa. What once was is now becoming again.
The cowardice of the Church in supporting its own doctrine is another nail in the coffin being hammered in by the left and the coffin will be buried in a grave yard soon to be owned by Islam.
Well, the excommunication and other canonical sanctions are not what they used to be some 700 years ago. And the attitude towards them is different. Inquisition convists used to wear special garb [it was called a sanbenito, IIRC], but it has gone completely out of fashion.
convists= convicts
And indeed, and most unfortunately, this would include the bishops who must be as bankrupt of any devotion to the Commandments of God as their evil socialist politicians.
It won't do any good to keep an eye on Spain. They're headed down the same path!
I'm not as familiar with Portugal, but it is certainly incorrect to call Spain a Catholic country anymore.
It is now post-Catholic. Same for Ireland, Italy, France and most other European "Catholic" countries. They are at best CINOs.
God does NOT like his Gifts being destroyed...there WILL be a price to be paid.
There are no Catholic countries in Europe, just countries with a Catholic past.
Off hand, I can think of several Catholic politicians who should start wearing the sanbenito, with Ted Kennedy at the top of the list.
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The thing is that they wouldn't give a fart. It has become irrelevant, and both they and the bishops know it - that's why the bishops do not excommunicate them, so as not to give a public demonstration of their impotence.
Very few "Catholics" left in Europe other than the Kennedy/Kerry variety.Western and Central Europe have,essentially,gone atheist.
Is Portugal really run by the Catholic Church? I thought the only remaining Theocracy was the Vatican.
The only other place I would expect Catholic positions on such issues to automatically win would be in democratic systems where Catholics are truly the majority even after they have properly purged their ranks of those who don't really conform to the Church's stated beliefs.
Can someone name the countries, in Europe or anywhere else, where abortion is outlawed?
I'm sorry to hear it. Portugal is a very different country from Spain. I knew there was a fair amount of Communism and Socialism there, but I would have hoped the people would have resisted this measure.
Our family spent a month in Portugal many years ago, in a small fishing village on the Atlantic, not the touristy Gold Coast. It's a beautiful place.
This is not only a sad and sinful surrender to the Culture of Death, it's also suicidal, since it will speed up the suicidal demographic implosion as Europeans kill themselves off by refusing to have children.
The muslims DON'T abort their babies..
As the the people of PORTUGAL die out the muslims will TAKE OVER...
Duuuugh.
I don't think you can lump Ireland or Portugal in the post-Catholic category. Last I looked, Ireland had a higher church attendance percentage than the US.
Liberation theology and the legacy of Vatican II are at work here. Income redistribution is above the saving of souls for this lot.
"The cowardice of the Church in supporting its own doctrine is another nail in the coffin being hammered in by the left and the coffin will be buried in a grave yard soon to be owned by Islam."
I was expecting more out of bishops who live in the land of Fatima, but I guess the infection has spread everywhere.
America is ripe (already rotten) on abortion. We have it on demand and I would say that the country is being operated by the limp-wristed, socialist pansies. Their either homosexual or they wholly support the agenda homosexuals work overtime trying to foist on the fools.
There is an attempt to return to the Tridentine Mass and it appears that in remote parts of Europe they are making the attempt. Certain orders in the U.S. are following suit. However, the muslims can just sit back, instead of blowing themselves up in order to meet girls, and watch us disintegrate.
In America the bishops, by and large, took what oozed out of Vatican II and ran with it to remold and remake their dioceses. They treated America like it was an open franchise to do with as they pleased. New "churches" were built, but they have the appearance of airplane hangars.
Seminaries opened the doors, begining in the late 50's, to homosexuals which helped fan the disgusting liberalism that seemed spawned by the USSR. In fact, I truly believe that the USSR, considering the Roman Catholic Church to be one of their greatest enemies began infiltrating the ranks of the clergy who then began to run the seminaries, recruiting perverts to serve in the clergy in an attempt to bring down the Church.
Today, when people enter what passes for a sanctuary, they continue chattering because, after all, nothing important is going to be happening anyway. Going to "mass" is just a habit and besides, it's great fun to hear the "presider" (priest) tell jokes and follow his own form of liturgy.
It's no small wonder that a large number of Catholics followed priests who joined the SSPX and the sedevacantists who, at least, returned worship to the high level of dignity and respect truly necessary.
God is angry, but a decade to us is like a second to Him. When He has truly observed enough and see that we have backslid into hell, what will ensue will be truly horrific.
An eternity in hell is not like a weekend in Miami.
"Can someone name the countries, in Europe or anywhere else, where abortion is outlawed?"
Poland?
a couple of south american countries?
"The muslims DON'T abort their babies"
Good point.
They watch us abort ourselves out of existence while they take on 3-4 wives and outpopulate everybody.
That's true. And the numbers of those who chose to become suicide killers of innocents are well under the birth rate.
We are in deep doo-doo and must suffer the inane comments of simpletons like Algored on how we have polluted the earth since the Industrial Revolution and Empress Hitlery jawing on "Protectin' our chilruns."
*Poland has a ban with a few exceptoins.
*Ireland has a band.
*Portugal did and does until this becomes legal.
*Greece only allows abortion up to the 12th week of a pregnancy.
*Germany allows abortion, but the "mother" must have been to a counselor before having the procedure done.
And yes, Ireland has many bands. ;)
But they have a total ban on abortion. And lots of Central and South American countries do, as well. Chile, El Salvador, Honduras, and Nicaragua, for instance.
If you're curious, have a look:
http://www.reproductiverights.org/pub_fac_abortion_laws.html
What's their name? I may have heard them.Sorry. I couldn't resist
The Christian religion allows free will in that one can sin and go to Hell by choice, but a human life is involved in this case. Right, explanation required.
As a generalization, this is true, but I go regularly to Poland, and the Catholic Church is still strong there.
Why Catholic Portugal allows abortions???
ANSWER....because they forgot/failed to ask THE LORD JESUS CHRIST INTO THEIR HEARTS. It is really no mystery at all.If anybody has truly asked Jesus into their life, then they would automatically be apposed to Abortion,homosexuality and the democrat party,to name a few.
BTW A person that has truly asked THE LORD JESUS CHRIST INTO THEIR LIFE would not vote for or support Rudy for President.
"WHY DID CATHOLIC PORTUGAL LEGALIZE ABORTION?"
Eurotrash Socialism.
" If it's any consolation (and I suspect it is none), the historically Protestant nations of Europe, such as Britain, the Netherlands, northern Germany, Denmark, Norway, Sweden, and Finland, are post-Christian with the state supported Protestant churches having become more or less an Amen corner for the secular humanists and socialists running the government."
Great point. It's amazing how the Communists/ socialists have destroyed the areas in Europe with a rich Protestant history (i.e. Germany and the Netherlands). The Protestant population has plummeted.
The very word "Fatima" - is the name of Mohammed's daughter.
Ordem E Progresso
http://www.nationalreview.com/derbyshire/derbyshire200504071043.asp
It is also widely reported that few young people in Ireland regularly attend church. I have no clue why, but Catholic countries seem to shed their residual religiosity faster than Protestant or Orthodox ones. Quebec as late as the 70s was a semi-dictatorship heavily influenced by the Church. Today it is one of the least religious societies on earth. Same with Spain and Italy, among others.
In the US, the official churches were disestablished early on. Religion was a bottom-up phenomenon, so it benefited from popular enthusiasms. Because religion wasn't imposed on Americans, it grew deep roots here.
Also, if you were an immigrant, far from your homeland religion was what you did have, what kept you together with your own. Consequently, you clung to it.
Religious affiliation also made you in American. You were a Catholic in the way that others were Methodists or Baptists. This wasn't a factor in the mother country, where people tended to belong to the same church, and religious affiliation didn't provide that kind of identity.
Spain has been trying to exorcise Franco for thirty years, and has gone ever further to the extremes of secularism and irreligion. Portugal's a different country, of course, but I suppose much the same dynamic applies.
In the European model of things modernity means the abandonment of religion. Sociologists assumed that that was a general law until relatively recently. That's changed in recent decades (see the work of Peter Berger among others), but apparently the news hasn't reached European voters.
Doe this mean we are one minute to midnight?
"The very word "Fatima" - is the name of Mohammed's daughter."
Yes I realize that.
Regardless - I would expect more from the bishops of portugal considering the events that took place there.
Sad. Very sad.
Absolutely....if the Bishops don't uphold church doctrine - who will?
I don't see why politicians in the United States who identify themselves as practicing Catholics aren't excommunicated for advocating for abortion.
Makes no sense to me.
"I don't see why politicians in the United States who identify themselves as practicing Catholics aren't excommunicated for advocating for abortion."
I'm guessing because many of them use the weasel excuse "I'm personally against abortion but...."
And so it gives weak catholic leaders who don't like public confrontation to avoid it.
Money. The abortion industry makes billions, and you can get money from the UN for it.
*****And so it gives weak catholic leaders who don't like public confrontation to avoid it.****
I am sure you are right.
However, religion is supposed to be confrontational when it comes to morality.
Silly me.
There's many out there who believe it is better to "reach out" and make nice.
Maybe that's true some of the time, but I doubt it should be true when it comes to killing babies.
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