Posted on 03/24/2007 10:44:48 PM PDT by Diago
Oh, don't be such a scaredy-cat! There isn't really any FR Cult of Randall Terry Fanatics! That's just a fairy story we use to scare naughty children.
Leaving aside altogether the faux "religious" zeal of those bound and determined to evangelize all of mankind on behalf of failed preacher wannabe Darwin's antireligious fantasy that we are somehow "descended" from apes (sounds like the right direction for Darwin and those gullible enough to worship his theories and his memory although it might then be an unjustified insult to apes), conservatives need to consider the question of the fact that the primary delivery system for this nonsense is "our" TAX-FUNDED gummint skewel system. Generally incapable of curing the continued illiteracy and innumeracy of kids sooooo unfortunate as to have been abandoned to these ignorance factories, "our" gummint skewel system has decided to teach Darwinist "religion" instead.
Jefferson once observed that there was no worse tyranny than forcing a man to pay for the propagation of ideas that he despises. Assuming that Darwinian fantasy rises to the level of an "idea", Jefferson has yet one more example.
If Bend and Sisters are gummint skewels, that alone is sufficient excuse for their abolition no matter WHAT is taught as to Darwin and his curious obsessions. If Sisters is a Catholic School, the very fact that anyone teaches or administratively defends Darwinism is sufficient excuse to fire any Darwinist, and any Darwinist defender (including board members) with a public apology to the parents (consideration of tuition refunds) and to students for their exposure to Darwinism and for the obvious fraud behind the notion that the school might be regarded as Catholic.
For parents infected by Darwinism, they ought not to be sending their kids to Catholic schools. For all parents, they ought not to be sending their kids to gummint skewels because there ought not to be gummint skewels in the first place.
Let's see. It is "nuts" who advance Creationism or Intelligent Design and sober, sensible folks that believe dogmatically that their ancestors were led through the tree-tops by Tarzan (himself presumably "descended" from apes despite his fictional leadership of them) while enjoying banana buffet.
Let's compromise. If you think your ancestors were apes, that alone may be impressive proof. I am not about to be sucked in by any asserted claim of ape ancestors. I am a Catholic and we are often accused of not being "Biblical." You know what? We are separated in time from common ancestors (humans not apes) known as Adam and Eve. God said it. I believe it. For me, that settles it.
If you do not think that there were ironclad bonds between eugenics, naziism and Planned Barrenhood, you don't know your history. Sanger was purged along with her closest buddies not because the incoming purgers were not of the same beliefs but because they were less known for those beliefs. Sanger sent Lothrop Stoddard (3 Harvard history degrees and racist extraordinaire/see his The Rising Tide of Color) as her "official observer" at the nazi eugenics courts in Hitler's Germany. Stoddard wrote breathless monthly dispatches for PP's monthly rag American Birth Control Magazine describing the wondrous eugenics "progress" being achieved by Hitler killing "the unfit." The Greatest Generation fought a war to crush the monstrous nazi movement. Now their allies (nazis, communists, socialists, atheists and, of course, leftists and liberals) control the gummint skewel curricula.
I have no notion of how old the universe (and the earth for that matter) may be other than it is a lot older than 10,000 years. Bishop Ussher was wrong in this as in other things.
You may be right that creationism and intelligent design ought not be taught as "science." What is needed here is a separation of what passes for "science" from some inappropriate assumption that science is a search for truth. In our time it is often a tool for the subjugation of man under the law of man rather than under the law of God. If people wish to pursue chemistry or biology or physics or geology or whatever for their own sakes and for the practical goals to be achieved by their manipulation to produce internal combustion engines or microwave ovens or refrigeration equipment or measurement technology, no problem, and may as much truth pervade such exercises as can do so.
What we do not need is some nervy nerd in a labcoat trying to decide for the rest of us that his unbelief should be our very own in areas where he is utterly unqualified like theology or philosophy. He would need additional resume proof to fix my carburetor, my roof or a flooded basement no matter where he was "educated."
The earth is NOT the center of the universe. God never said it was. The earth is far older than Bishop Ussher imagined and, regardless of his misinterpretations and presumptions, God never said otherwise. Nonetheless, those who (deny this if I am unfair) believe that life originated not from the will and actions of God but by lightning striking some dead but high potential primordial soup and everything thereafter "evolved" by accident and not by design (if at all) are not in a position to be dismissing religion as the field of "nuts."
Louis Pasteur is regarded as a scientist by at least some folks. He said his rosary regularly.
I would pay money to see you debate Benedict XVI on God vs. science.
The University of Wisconsin at Madison is a war I can drive to in less than an hour. Trust me. It still has a communist cell which is known as the faculty and another known as the administration.
God forbid we teach kids to be thinkers.
Blind followers of the school board is good enough.
This might be of interest to you...
How many history lessons do you want to include in the bioloy curriculum?
How many biology lessons will we switch over to the history teacher?
The influences of Hegel, Haeckel and others were also quite central to Nazism.
In fact, I would argue that the foundation the Holocaust was not put forth by an Austrian madman, but rather it was established in the Universities of Germany.
No, I've already expressed that opinion. I just want my kids taught the basic knowledge - whether you agree with evolution or not or are skeptical as to some aspects of the theory, like me, they have to know this stuff to progress in school.
IMHO, the tip off is he wanted to teach the kids "critical thinking," which is the same phrase libs use when they teach politics in the classroom. I have to be consistent - I don't want politics in the classroom, including the extremely rare occasion when its from the conservative side. I'll take care of that aspect of my kids' education, not the state.
Well said.
Potentially; but it is more statistically probable that there is a solar system out there whose planets align from time to time to draw a startlingly exact picture of a flying spaghetti monster.
If the schools can teach that evolution can be taught to the exclusion of any other point of view it is brainwashing. Why are the schools allowed to brainwash? Whatever happened to discussing two points of view and allowing the student to think them out and adopt the most reasonable. I was on the debating team in school. That was in the '40's, and you had no choice on which side you were to debate. That seems to be the true path to seeing both sides of a question in order to make a decision. But, of course, the public schools fire people for doing that these days. /s Oh, Patrick Henry, where are you when we need you? Would your quote, and all of unrevised history, ever be taught to thirsty young minds again? If we don't know from whence we come, we know not where we are to go. :o(
Awesome.
I can now demand that the existence of a flying spaghetti monster be taught as scientific fact in all public classrooms.
OP!! I have not seen you in a while!
And even with my favorite single passage in the Book as a tagline...
Take care, my FRiend.
Lots actually...How about the history a disease? Louis Pasteur, Lister, and so on. Biology drips with history of Western Civilization. Wars were fought, people were beaten and executed to advance what we know about biology, if we don't teach the history, the journey that science has made, we dishonor those who have brought us here.
Education is life, it is a celebration of how far we have come and a map to where we are going, if we ignore parts of the journey because we don't like it or don't agree with it, we dishonor those who have brought us this far and we don't learn from their mistakes or build on their successes.You can't separate the two because they are taught in different classrooms.
But.....I'm biased...I'm a history major, but I don't think I'm wrong...just passionate... :-)
I also understand that when you dealing with public education and teenagers, there isn't enough time to teach every detail about every subject, but when you're talking about a subjects like evolution and planned parenthood that are political hot beds, I think all sides should be taught including the history so that these future voters and political leaders (and Parents) should have all the information in order to make a real decision about what they believe and how they are going to make choices.
Socialized medicine is a rank failure and socialized edumakashun is far worse. Loving America is despising both and abolishing both.
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