Posted on 03/25/2007 2:48:09 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
Honsetly, I really don't care about Kashmir. It has nothing to do with the United States.
"You have already said you support the pipeline whether Balochistan is free or not."
All I said was if India thinks it needs to go ahead with the pipleine deal then it should go ahead with it. Its India decision to make and India doesn't need anybody's advise.
Do you comprehend simple English?
Usted quisiera que lo dijera en español?
I am fine with whatever decision India take. I already told you the best alternative in my opinion (free Balochistan which you dont support).
You accuse me of wanting to have my own people slaughtered, why? Because I (in your mistaken opinion support paying the Pakis for the oil deal). By that line one logic all of AMERICA (including YOU since you already support Pakistan on the mistaken assumption that it apparently serve your country's interests) is already guilty of funding the Pakis with weapons and $$$. So by that line of thinking you are much more (then me) guilty of slaughtering of Indians.
You need meds Bub.
You calling me anti-Indian is much like an non-American calling you anti-American. Moreover you are a self-confessed Pak supporter and you are accusing an Indian of being anti-Indian. You have no idea how funny it sounds.
That's a lie. You have supported this deal with Pakistan and Iran from the beginning. Just to prove you are a liar, I will post your statements.
"Voting against Iran (India's only ally in the Islamic world) will virtually seal the fate of the multi-billion dollar oil and gas deal with Iran. India has already lost out to China on Central Asian oil and gas contracts. Loosing out on Iranian oil will put India in a real tight spot." - 6 posted on 01/26/2006 2:02:37 AM CST by Gengis Khan
By that line one logic all of AMERICA is already guilty of funding the Pakis with weapons and $$$.
That is exactly YOUR logic Gengis. I am the one applying it to you. I don't believe America is guilty of that at all. You do. I am simply applying your own standard to you.
I do not support Pakistan. That is just a lie you tell to smear me, because it's easier than trying to defend your indefensible pro-Pakistan and Pro-Iran position.
My position on Pakistan is this:
1. I support President Bush's policy of coercing Pakistan into helping us against the Taliban.
2. I do not support the overthrow of Musharraf unless it is accompanied by a full-scale military occupation of Pakistan by the US or India. To simply support a coup against Musharraf would be to support the very islamic theocrats who want him dead to stop him from cooperating with the US against the Taliban. You want the theocrats to win, and I don't.
You already know all this, but since you falsely accuse me, then I am compelled to publicly set the record straight. These positions are shared by most FReepers. You call me a terrorist supporter because you think anyone who supports President Bush supports terrorism against India. That is an anti-American lie. You are the one who supports terrorists and want them to succeed in assassinating Musharraf.
By the way Gengis, are you still in America? While you are here, be sure to tell Americans about your support for Iran and your idea that India should try to intimidate the US by supporting Iran and helping them kill our soldiers in Iraq. That is, unless you are too much of a coward to admit to Americans face-to-face where you really stand.
I didn't "endorse" anything. If I was pro-Pakistan I would care alot about Kashmir and I would demand India withdraw form Kashmir. But I'm not. India's seizure of Kashmir from Pakistan does not concern me. It is a conflict between India and Pakistan which has nothing to do with the USA or our strategic interests. Maybe if India would go ahead and invade and conquer the rest of their lost Pakistani lands, then Indians like you would have less to bitch about and blame America for.
Can you give me a 101 on what is Iran’s foreign policy towards the Kashmir dispute ? and its relations with Pakistan ? How do they see India/Pak ?
Not many people know that Iran supports a small terrorist group (all Shia women suicide bombers, not very active) called “Duktaran-e-Millat” (Daughters of the nation) in Kashmir.
During Narasimha Rao’s tenure the OIC was about to pass a resolution to pressure India into accepting a UN sponsored plebiscite in Kashmir. The resolution was introduced by Benazir Bhutto and Pakistan had the backing of almost all the Muslim countries with a few deciding to abstain (it should not be forgotten that the resolution also the tacit approval of the US). For the resolution to be passed it needed not only the approval of most of the members but also no members should oppose the resolution. At India’s request Iran was the only country that vetoed against the resolution.
With Pakistan, Iran’s relation has been both hot and cold. Iran is Shia and Pakistan is Sunni. During Taliban rule over Afghanistan Iran and Pakistan were directly poised against each other. In fact Iran, India and Russia were supporting the Northern Alliance. Even today Indian supplies are routed via Iran rather than over Pakistan. Iran is basically maintaining a balance in its relationship between India and Pakistan, on one hand they have the nuclear cooperation with Pakistan and on the other hand they desperately would like to get Indian support. Iran is in danger of being isolated internationally (just like Iraq under Saddam). Indian support is their big ticket to not only end their isolation but also assume some amount of global importance. India being the only democratic country in the region, Indian approval of the Iranian regime gives them legitimacy that they can flaunt internationally. India is also their nearest and biggest market for oil. With Indian economic growth, India’s oil consumption will likely increase many fold. Our nearest source of oil is Iran (central Asian oil has been lost to China and Iraq is nowhere near stability). Whatever our relation with US and Israel, Iranian oil seems to be indispensable for India’s future economic growth.
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