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U.S. Would Have Fired on The Iranians
UK Independent via. Hot Air ^

Posted on 03/25/2007 5:30:55 PM PDT by Weight of Glory

The executive officer - second-in-command on USS Underwood, the frigate working in the British-controlled task force with HMS Cornwall - said: “The unique US Navy rules of engagement say we not only have a right to self-defence but also an obligation to self-defence. They [the British] had every right in my mind and every justification to defend themselves rather than allow themselves to be taken. Our reaction was, ‘Why didn’t your guys defend themselves?’”…

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TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; United Kingdom; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: geopolitics; iran; rulesofengagement; selfdefence; uk; wot
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To: OldFriend
Yes, I noticed how the sailors on the USS Cole fired on the explosive laden dinghy bearing down on them. /s/

The sailors on the USS Cole had NO ammunition in thier weapons.

And you don't think anything has changed since then?

21 posted on 03/25/2007 5:45:19 PM PDT by xjcsa (The "average temperature" of the earth is as meaningful as the "average number" in a phone book.)
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To: RightWhale

22 posted on 03/25/2007 5:46:16 PM PDT by ASA Vet (The WOT should have been over on 11/5/1979.)
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To: clintonh8r

The British navy hasn't officially ruled the seas since WW2, and unofficially since WW1.


23 posted on 03/25/2007 5:46:33 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: farlander
""Yesterday, the former First Sea Lord, Admiral Sir Alan West, said British rules of engagement were “very much de-escalatory, because we don’t want wars starting …"

The Europeans have gone sissy, even the once proud Brits. "De-escalatory"? "Don't want wars starting"? Note to Admiral West, you are already in a war. Not fighting back after you're already in a war is an act of cowardice, no matter how many words like "de-escalatory" you may invent.

24 posted on 03/25/2007 5:47:27 PM PDT by Cooking101
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To: Cooking101

BUMP!


25 posted on 03/25/2007 5:50:34 PM PDT by Publius6961 (MSM: Israelis are killed by rockets; Lebanese are killed by Israelis.)
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To: farlander
former First Sea Lord, Admiral Sir Alan West, said British rules of engagement were “very much de-escalatory, because we don’t want wars starting … Rather than roaring into action and sinking everything in sight we try to step back and that, of course, is why our chaps were, in effect, able to be captured and taken away.”

Sounds like ROE more appropriate for when passing through trusted allied waters...

26 posted on 03/25/2007 5:52:50 PM PDT by M203M4 (The enemy of my enemy is not necessarily my friend.)
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To: Weight of Glory

Maybe these guys spent a bit too much time vacationing in France.....


27 posted on 03/25/2007 5:53:30 PM PDT by eeevil conservative (Duncan Hunter and John Bolton in '08!!!!!!!!)
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To: farlander

It was a British Admiral said that moderation in warfare is the height of folly.

I suppose that's why they didn't take U.S. sailors hostage.


28 posted on 03/25/2007 5:53:31 PM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (When I search out the massed wheeling circles of the stars, my feet no longer touch the earth)
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To: TheRedSoxWinThePennant

The Iranian Navy

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Current_Iranian_Navy_Vessels

Such as it is..


29 posted on 03/25/2007 5:54:21 PM PDT by Armedanddangerous (Master of Sinanju, Emeritus)
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To: Cooking101
Hey First High Lord mucky muck - one of our guys would have yelled: "I have not yet begun to de-escalate."
30 posted on 03/25/2007 5:54:31 PM PDT by Enterprise (I can't talk about liberals anymore because some of the words will get me sent to rehab.)
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To: Weight of Glory
American forces in Iraq now hold some 300 prisoners tied to Iran’s intelligence agencies, Pajamas Media learned from both diplomatic and military sources. This is believed, by both sources, to be a record number of prisoners tied to Iran. Virtually all were captured in the past two months.

One way to look at this is: the US wants to eliminate iranian backing of terrorists in Iraq. Another way to look at it is: US is starting to roll up iranian cells around the world in preparation for a strike on iran.

31 posted on 03/25/2007 5:55:27 PM PDT by gotribe ( I can find no warrant for such an appropriation in the Constitution... - Grover Cleveland.)
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To: Armedanddangerous

They still shouldnt have one


32 posted on 03/25/2007 5:55:50 PM PDT by TheRedSoxWinThePennant
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To: Mr. Mojo

lol!


33 posted on 03/25/2007 5:56:42 PM PDT by Boxsford (Mediocrity attacks excellence.)
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To: Weight of Glory

Admiral Lord Nelson:

"England expects that every man will do his duty."

"You must consider every man your enemy who speaks ill of your king..."


34 posted on 03/25/2007 5:56:49 PM PDT by Weight of Glory
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To: ansel12

It means that Horner is 2nd guessing the Brits. I have no doubt our guys would have had to get the OK to fire. By the time they got it they would have been surrounded like the Brits. Horner should have just STFU.


35 posted on 03/25/2007 5:57:15 PM PDT by DogBarkTree (The United States failure to act against Iran will be seen as weakness throughout the Muslim world.)
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To: farlander
Rather than roaring into action and sinking everything in sight we try to step back and that, of course, is why our chaps were, in effect, able to be captured and taken away.”

Lord Nelson is rolling over in his grave.

36 posted on 03/25/2007 5:58:40 PM PDT by A message (Liberalism does not breed survivors)
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To: Cooking101

British rules of engagement were “very much de-escalatory, because we don’t want wars starting …"

Yeah, that always works.

37 posted on 03/25/2007 6:00:34 PM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (When I search out the massed wheeling circles of the stars, my feet no longer touch the earth)
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To: Weight of Glory

I guess the same rules of engagement don't apply to our border guards.


38 posted on 03/25/2007 6:02:12 PM PDT by alicewonders (I like Duncan Hunter for President in 2008!)
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To: farlander
"Yesterday, the former First Sea Lord, Admiral Sir Alan West, said British rules of engagement were “very much de-escalatory, because we don’t want wars starting..."

Ronald Reagan said something to the effect of "America's been in four wars during my lifetime and none of them were started because the enemy thought we were too strong."

39 posted on 03/25/2007 6:02:51 PM PDT by Onelifetogive (Liberals are willing to sacrifice any amount of someone else's money to increase their own power...)
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To: DogBarkTree

Our Brit pals know that if they got into it, we would have backed them 100% per-cent.

You cannot say the same about any other country, if we got into it.


40 posted on 03/25/2007 6:03:08 PM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (When I search out the massed wheeling circles of the stars, my feet no longer touch the earth)
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