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To: Ultra Sonic 007
”CO2 lagging Temperature increase:
" Once that CO2 has been released into the atmosphere its heat-trapping properties as a greenhouse gas lead to even stronger warming: an example of positive feedback.."

In other words, “CO2 adds to some mysterious warming trend.”

Man these people are loons.

27 posted on 03/25/2007 8:44:14 PM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric cartman voice* ?I love you guys?)
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To: Steve Van Doorn
”CO2 lagging Temperature increase:
" Once that CO2 has been released into the atmosphere its heat-trapping properties as a greenhouse gas lead to even stronger warming: an example of positive feedback.."

In other words, “CO2 adds to some mysterious warming trend.”

Man these people are loons.

What they fail to explain is that "positive feedback" (aka "feed forward" loops) have the interesting characteristic that they culminate in some climatic event. An example is orgasm. What, I wonder, does he propose as the culminating event to this feed forward scenario?

31 posted on 03/25/2007 9:05:49 PM PDT by lafroste (gravity is not a force. See my profile to read my novel absolutely free (I know, beyond shameless))
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To: Steve Van Doorn

Look at CO2 like a Stockmarket Analist would. It is a "trailing indicator". It confirms what HAS HAPPENED.

It has never been a valid PREDICTOR.


70 posted on 03/25/2007 11:44:04 PM PDT by PizzaDriver (an heinleinian/libertarian)
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To: Steve Van Doorn
In other words, “CO2 adds to some mysterious warming trend.”

Much too gross an oversimplification. When a glacial-interglacial or interglacial-glacial transition is initiated, many factors are in place such that, when a trend is initiated, they have self-reinforcing feedbacks (positive or negative, depending on your viewpoint).

Leaving CO2 totally out of the discussion for a moment, the other main factor is the extent of continental glaciation. When the continental ice sheets start to retreat, Earth's albedo (reflectivity) decreases, allowing more solar radiation to "enter the system" and not get immediately reflected right back into space. And the exposure of land surface is one of the main ways it enters the system, because the land absorbs solar radiation and re-radiates it as longwave infrared. And we know what happens to that, right? Plus, warmer land surfaces adjacent to glaciers are likely to be wet, releasing water vapor into the atmosphere, increasing relative humidity.

So that's an example of a non-mysterious process that would augment an initiated warming trend. And I'm working in my profile to explain the CO2 feedback in detail.

83 posted on 03/26/2007 8:15:37 AM PDT by cogitator
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