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Insurgents report a split with Al Qaeda in Iraq
LA Times ^ | March 27 2007 | Ned Parker

Posted on 03/26/2007 10:51:41 PM PDT by jmc1969

Insurgent leaders and Sunni Arab politicians say divisions between insurgent groups and Al-Qaeda in Iraq have widened and have led to combat in some areas of the country, a schism that U.S. officials hope to exploit.

Insurgent leaders from two of the prominent groups fighting U.S. troops said the divisions between their forces and Al-Qaeda are serious. They have led to skirmishes in Al Anbar province, in western Iraq, and have stopped short of combat in Diyala, east of Baghdad, they said in interviews with the Los Angeles Times.

The General Command of the Iraqi Armed Forces, a small Baath Party insurgent faction, told the Los Angeles Times it had split with Al-Qaeda in Iraq last September, after the assassination of two of its members in Al Anbar.

"Al-Qaeda killed two of our best members, the General Mohammed and General Saab, in Ramadi, so we took revenge and now we fight Al-Qaeda," said the group's spokesman, who called himself Abu Marwan.

In Diyala, the 1920 Revolution Brigade, a coalition of Islamists and former Baath Party military officers, is on the verge of cutting ties with Al-Qaeda.

"In the past, we agreed in terms of the goal of resisting the occupation and expelling the occupation. We have some disagreements with Qaeda especially about targeting civilians, places of worship, state civilian institutions and services," said Haj Mahmoud Abu Bakr, a fighter with the brigade.

The government has proposed a trial cease-fire period to the 1920 Revolution Brigade, the Islamic Army in Iraq and other factions in western Baghdad. In return, the Iraqi government would mount a major reconstruction drive in battle-scarred Sunni areas, a senior member of Prime Minister Maliki's Dawa Party said.

A rupture between Al-Qaeda and other insurgents could prove a significant break for the Iraqi government and the Americans.

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


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1 posted on 03/26/2007 10:51:44 PM PDT by jmc1969
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To: jmc1969

It might be a lie too.

Thx for the article though.


2 posted on 03/26/2007 11:05:17 PM PDT by RunningWolf (2-1 Cav 1975)
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To: RunningWolf

Four alleged Saudi terrorists belonging to the Iraqi al-Qaeda organisation were killed in recent days during violent clashes with tribal militias in the Sunni province of al-Anbar.

According to Arab newspaper al-Hayat the "1920 Brigades" another insurgent group, is also fighting alongside the tribal militias of al-Anbar against al-Qaeda fighters and together they have managed to drive them back from the area around Abu Ghreib.

http://www.adnki.com/index_2Level_English.php?cat=Terrorism&loid=8.0.398747166&par=0


3 posted on 03/26/2007 11:09:11 PM PDT by jmc1969
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To: jmc1969

Sounds like a very good day to me!


4 posted on 03/26/2007 11:12:17 PM PDT by jws3sticks (Hillary can take a very long walk on a very short pier, anytime, and the sooner the better!)
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To: jmc1969

So the MSM's "civil war" in Iraq turns out to be Al Qaeda versus Al Qaeda...


5 posted on 03/26/2007 11:25:33 PM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: RunningWolf
Nope, no lie, but the LA Slimes is about two weeks behind on this - perhaps they couldn't hold back on reporting good news about Iraq any longer:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1799360/posts
6 posted on 03/26/2007 11:37:24 PM PDT by decal (Mother Nature and Real Life are conservatives - the Progs have never figured this out.)
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To: jmc1969
I'm still waiting for a division between Al-Qaeda and Democrats.
7 posted on 03/26/2007 11:38:09 PM PDT by AZRepublican ("The degree in which a measure is necessary can never be a test of the legal right to adopt it.")
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To: AZRepublican

Heh, I don't think there's an atrocity bad enough to cause the Democrats to turn on Al Qaeda In Iraq.

Well, maybe if they assassinated Obama, Hillary, AND Pelosi all at once, they might, but even then it would be a struggle.

The alliance is soul-deep.


8 posted on 03/27/2007 12:51:48 AM PDT by The Watcher
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To: jmc1969

Anyone notice something about this report besides me?

Our intelligence agencies and the Senate told us that the Al Qaeda and Baath party would never work together because of one being religious and the other secular.

I’ve been reading reports of those two groups working together ever since the invasion in 2003 and yet, as late as a month ago, people was still making that claim that they will never work together. This is only further proof of the lie we are being told to push the idea that Saddam would not and could not work with the Al Qaeda.


9 posted on 03/27/2007 2:29:50 AM PDT by Tut
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To: Tut
"work with Al-Qaeda"

Indeed that has been one of the biggest lies or falsehoods spread by Big Media. Even the 9/11 commission reported "extensive contacts" between Hussein and A-Q. One doesn't have to go too far into past history to find cases of supposed enemies working together to fight a mutual enemy. Of course Hussein didn't want A-Q to run his own country. But he allowed Zarqawi in to harass the Kurds and set up his own A-Q base. If Hussein hated A-Q, why in the world would he let them in his country? The obvious answer is that he wanted to work withn A-Q against the U.S. It's like the lie that Hussein NEVER!! had wmds. Many people believe that lie too. Naturally Big Media wants to deny all of that.

10 posted on 03/27/2007 2:40:59 AM PDT by driftless2
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To: jmc1969
Insurgent leaders and Sunni Arab politicians say divisions between insurgent groups and Al-Qaeda in Iraq have widened and have led to combat in some areas of the country, a schism that U.S. officials hope to exploit.

Maybe Jimmy Carter can go over and broker a peace between the warring factions? /sarc

11 posted on 03/27/2007 2:45:14 AM PDT by Cowboy Bob (Liberalism is the most extreme form of dementia.)
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To: Tut
This is only further proof of the lie we are being told to push the idea that Saddam would not and could not work with the Al Qaeda.

I wouldn't go that far. The 1920s Revolutionary Brigade and al-Qa'ida are natural enemies with vastly different long term goals. Their alliance is one of necessity, to drive us out of Iraq. They'll gladly exterminate each other to the last man after we're gone. In fact, it seems they can't even hold out that long.

So, it's quite a leap of logic to then assume that "See, Saddam was going to give nukes to terrorists, since Ba'athists and terrorists WILL work together sometimes." They have no guarantee that they'd use the weapons on us, and not the Ba'athists instead.

12 posted on 03/27/2007 4:58:43 AM PDT by Steel Wolf (If every Republican is a RINO, then no Republican is a RINO.)
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To: jmc1969

A lot of these divisions are likely nothing more than interpersonal rivalries. With a lot of the more seasoned senior leadership missing, locals have stepped in to fill the vaccuum. As opposed to the foriegn leaders, the locals have very specific ideas and feelings on how Iraq should be run, and are far more prone to disagree over tactics and objectives. This will lead to increasingly sharp divisions, as AQIs harsher methods don't play well with most locals. 1920s may be willing to stomach a lot to get us kicked out, but they have limits to their patience, and they're starting to show.


13 posted on 03/27/2007 5:03:53 AM PDT by Steel Wolf (If every Republican is a RINO, then no Republican is a RINO.)
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To: Steel Wolf
since Ba'athists and terrorists WILL work together sometimes."

Like at the 2000 Kuala Lumpur summit?
14 posted on 03/27/2007 7:27:54 AM PDT by Thrownatbirth (.....when the sidewalks are safe for the little guy.)
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To: Steel Wolf
I don’t know where you got this quote form. It didn’t come from me. “See, Saddam was going to give nukes to terrorists, since Ba'athists and terrorists WILL work together sometimes.” You wouldn’t take a lot of liberties with my posts now would you?

However, Saddam could and did work with a lot of different terrorist groups as well as the Al Qaeda when they had the same objectives.

I believe Saddam helped the Al Qaeda in various ways such as training, technical and fanatical assistance. It is a nice way that he could cause trouble and not get his hands dirty. It’s not like they would have 8x10 glossies taken of them shaking hands with smiling faces after contracts being signed.

A lot of what I go by is reports I have read that goes back a decade and the reports I am reading now. At some point, a walking duck is really a walking duck.
15 posted on 03/27/2007 11:16:44 AM PDT by Tut
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