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A mistake, a raid, a couple terrified
Pioneer Press ^ | 03/27/2007 12:28:02 AM CDT | DAVE ORRICK

Posted on 03/27/2007 5:12:46 AM PDT by VRing

The man leveled his gun at Nicole Thompson's face.

Moments later, he had the mother of four on the ground with the barrel to the back of her head. According to her and her husband, the man screamed, "If you move, I'll shoot you in the f-- head!"


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption
KEYWORDS: donutwatch; jbts; minnesota; wodlist
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To: Larry Lucido
Larry, that was in Northern Virginia ~ in Fairfax County ~ where there's a very low murder rate.

They regularly sack cops who are snotty though, so my complaint wasn't without value.

81 posted on 03/27/2007 10:02:49 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

Aha. Good to hear that (though I still picture a couple Chicago cops saying exactly what you heard).


82 posted on 03/27/2007 10:06:54 AM PDT by Larry Lucido (Hurry back Mr. Brightside)
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To: TheKidster
That's just the tip of the iceberg as to the lengths some nuts in governments will go to attempt to maintain power or at least the lengths the government will go to to feed its delusions.

The border guards and our military personell are constantly screwed by their own government!!

83 posted on 03/27/2007 10:08:26 AM PDT by RSmithOpt (Liberalism: Highway to Hell)
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To: JeffAtlanta

Oh please, this has nothing to do with the "socialist agenda" but the product of social conservatives - especially the 'law and order" ones and the drug warriors.

You're not giving credit where credit is due. Plenty of liberals are also drug warriors. When was the last time you heard a democrat speak out against the abuses of power and infringement of civil liberties occurring more and more often in the name of the WOD? Seriously, I've been listening but the silence is deafening. They just tell us "it's for the children" while the right tell us it's for a morally upright society.


84 posted on 03/27/2007 10:10:04 AM PDT by TheKidster (you can only trust government to grow, consolidate power and infringe upon your liberties.)
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To: Larry Lucido
So can I. Big problem in Northern Virginia are the hot shot cops from Boston, New York and Chicago who come there thinking the Rolling Rock beer ads are correct ~ "land of easy living" ~ and they can keep their old habits, and attitudes, and make more money for less risk.

Big surprise for them ~ deal is they have to learn to be polite, take equal or worse risks driving the Jamaican Posses back across the river, and put up with Congressional hijinks.

The ones who can't learn end up working for Prince George's County (in Maryland).

85 posted on 03/27/2007 10:10:39 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: TheKidster

How about we simply "privatize" drug use ~ you do what you want, we do what we want. Sound OK, or do you think you should get police protection?


86 posted on 03/27/2007 10:13:22 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Rapscallion

"May I inquire as to why you posted it all?"

Because I can. Is it really too difficult to click the link?


87 posted on 03/27/2007 10:16:15 AM PDT by VRing (Happiness is a perfect sling bruise.)
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To: metmom
And the wife is right; if you sue the cops, who are you going to call next time you need help?

Why would anyone in their right mind ever call the police for anything?
88 posted on 03/27/2007 10:16:51 AM PDT by Filo (Darwin was right!)
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To: RSmithOpt

yes, they are being used as pawns, even these jack booted thugs in the article are victims in a large way because of the policies pushed down the chain of command. In the end, like everything else it's all about the dollars.

Border = cheap, almost slave labor from Mex and South America.

WOD = confiscation of money, cars, homes, anything they want to take under suspicion of drug activity. Like Mexico, many of our cops work on commission now. Seize $5000 and put $1,000 in the evidence locker to be used later for the cheif's new cruiser or the newest fully automatic toys for the drug warrriors, we citizens are prohibited from owning (unless you have $20K or so to go through the paperwork and applications for a lisence.)


89 posted on 03/27/2007 10:17:59 AM PDT by TheKidster (you can only trust government to grow, consolidate power and infringe upon your liberties.)
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To: muawiyah
you do what you want, we do what we want.

Who exactly is "we"?

90 posted on 03/27/2007 10:19:22 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: TheKidster
When was the last time you heard a democrat speak out against the abuses of power and infringement of civil liberties occurring more and more often in the name of the WOD? Seriously, I've been listening but the silence is deafening.

Liberals are far more likely to be on the right side of this issue than social conservatives. Social conservatives gave us the ramped up War on Drugs and of any political group, social conservatives are most hostile toward civil liberties. The social conservatives even make war against the 2nd amendment by giving their undying support to no-knock warrants and the use of plain clothes officers.

I have read countless times here on FR by social conservatives that if a person has nothing to hide then they have nothing to fear.

91 posted on 03/27/2007 10:20:50 AM PDT by JeffAtlanta
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To: tacticalogic
People who don't believe hard narctoics should be part of our culture.

You want total liberty, I'm proposing that what's sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander as well.

Just privatize these issues ~ get them out of the government's hands.

92 posted on 03/27/2007 10:25:24 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah
People who don't believe hard narctoics should be part of our culture.

Given the post you replied to only made reference to marijuana, can I assume that you consider that "hard narcotics"?

93 posted on 03/27/2007 10:29:30 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: RSmithOpt
< /B>< /I> Turning off html tags...hopefully.

That has not been necessary for several years.

94 posted on 03/27/2007 10:31:55 AM PDT by jmc813 (The 2nd Amendment is NOT a "social conservative" issue.)
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To: JeffAtlanta

To some extent, yes social conservatives can at times be seduced into the mistaken positon of legislating morality, but I would still contend that liberals (actually fascists, socialists and communists) are far more of a threat to our liberty than social conservatives. For perspective look at the political spectrum; on the right is anarchists, libertarians, free marketers and on the left you have socialists, fascists and communists and totalitarians. The liberals in the US at best sit in the socialist camp but many are even futher left firmly in the communist camp.

Social conservatives are much more likely to oppose government growth and expansion except for a few areas like abortion on demand, drug laws (some definitely not all), borders, gay rights. Most though would rather leave you alone as long as you don't push these things on them (except abortion, that seems to be a line in the sand for most) where as liberals will force thier views on the majority, via income redistribution, indoctrination in government run schools, political correctness. To them the war on Drugs is a good thing because it helps consolidate and expand govt. power over the idividual.

I think that you are confusing Libertarians with Liberals.


95 posted on 03/27/2007 10:32:12 AM PDT by TheKidster (you can only trust government to grow, consolidate power and infringe upon your liberties.)
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To: tacticalogic
Like to stick to my own definitions, don't you?

Really no need for government to stick its nose into this, right?

96 posted on 03/27/2007 10:32:47 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

How about we simply "privatize" drug use ~ you do what you want, we do what we want. Sound OK, or do you think you should get police protection?

I don't understand your statement and question, would you please clarify?


97 posted on 03/27/2007 10:36:00 AM PDT by TheKidster (you can only trust government to grow, consolidate power and infringe upon your liberties.)
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To: ASOC

My brother who was certainly no saint got beat up back in the 1970's by the cops where he lived. They were wrong for beating him up that time & he sued. They made life unbearable until he moved & he dropped the suit. It was easier for him to drop it as he found the new town knew cops from the old town...


98 posted on 03/27/2007 10:43:32 AM PDT by pandoraou812 ( zero tolerance to the will of Allah ...... dilligaf? with an efg.....)
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To: jimtorr
What are they supposed to do? Politely ask everyone to calm down so they can figure out what's going on? Should they ignore the likelyhood that this is a drug buy going bad, and gunfire may break out at any moment?

that is EXACTLY what they should have done. In 5 minutes everything would have been figured out and the cops could have taken their two stooges off this guys property, after an apology of course.

99 posted on 03/27/2007 10:48:25 AM PDT by fnord (If gun owners, pot smokers, and poker players start a political party, they'd never lose an election)
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To: JeffAtlanta
Liberals are far more likely to be on the right side of this issue than social conservatives. Social conservatives gave us the ramped up War on Drugs and of any political group, social conservatives are most hostile toward civil liberties. The social conservatives even make war against the 2nd amendment by giving their undying support to no-knock warrants and the use of plain clothes officers.

Interesting, isn't it, how the "conservatives" and "liberals", take turns assaulting our rights from different directions, yet none of it ever seems to get rolled back?. 

100 posted on 03/27/2007 10:50:11 AM PDT by zeugma (MS Vista has detected your mouse has moved, Cancel or Allow?)
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