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Thompson and Gore [Rich Galen]
CNSNews.com ^ | 3/28/07 | Rich Galen

Posted on 03/28/2007 7:29:34 AM PDT by B Knotts

FULL DISCLOSURE ALERT: The Lad is Deputy Campaign Manager for John McCain. I, therefore, have a rooting interest in the McCain campaign staying in business for as long as possible. Use that as a filter through which you read the following, a brief chronology:

* On March 11, former Senator and current actor Fred Thompson told Chris Wallace on Fox News Sunday, upon being asked if he were "considering running for President in 2008: "I'm giving some thought to it. Going to leave the door open."

* This past Friday night the Mullings Director of Standards & Practices and I were having dinner at our favorite restaurant, Landini's in Old Town when it came to our attention that former Senator Fred Thompson was on premises and was sitting with Republican /'fcber-media-maven Alex Castellanos.

* What's the big deal? How about this: CBS News characterized Castellanos as "a strategist for Mitt Romney."

* Whoa! Check, please!

* Then Monday afternoon I got a call from mega-reporter Susan Page of USA Today asking me what I thought of the just-released USA Today/Gallup poll which showed Thompson's "leaving the door open" had generated a level of support which had him at 12%.

* I'm not that terrific at arithmetic, but I do know that polls tend to add up to 100% so if Thompson had gone from zero to 12 percent it had to come from somewhere.

* Giuliani, it turns out. According to the table on the Gallup web page, three weeks ago the top Republicans were:

Giuliani - 44 McCain - 20 Gingrich - 9 Romney - 8 Tommy Thompson - 2 Brownback - 1

* Fred Thompson was not even listed.

* The new lineup is:

Giuliani - 31 (-13) McCain - 22 (+2) Fred Thompson - 12 (+12) Gingrich - 8 (-1) Romney - 3 (-5) Brownback - 3 (+2) Tommy Thompson - 2 ( - )

* Chuck "I Called You All Here to Tell You I Have Nothing to Tell You" Hagel registers an appropriate asterisk. Again.

* Rudy Giuliani is still popular with the GOP base but he, as I may have written before, will have a growing problem as more people become better acquainted with his official positions and personal background.

* When Giuliani declared he was not in favor of a pardon for Scooter Libby, I suggested to one newspaper that was one more straw on the back of the Conservative camel and it appeared to me that the camel's knees were beginning to buckle.

* Romney, who may well win the first quarter fund-raising sweepstakes, will not be considered a viable candidate for very long if he doesn't make a move in the national polls soon. Being tied with Sam Brownback (R-Ks) is not where his campaign thought it would be at this point.

* McCain, whose campaign has finally gotten out of the starting blocks is statistically unchanged at 22%; more important for him is that Giuliani is being drawn back to the pack. But, McCain's campaign has to begin to make its own destiny and not just be reflective of the activity (plus or minus) of the other major candidates.

* Newt will suffer from a potential Fred Thompson candidacy because Fred may become, in many GOP voters' minds, the alternative to the Big Three (Giuliani, McCain and Romney) which is the position Newt has been holding since the beginning of the campaign.

* On the Democratic side, Hillary still holds a largely unchanged lead over Obama 35% to 22% with Al Gore remaining at 17% and Edwards gaining five percentage points to 14%.

* Gore has not indicated he will enter the race but a worrying stat for the Hillary and Barack campaigns has to be Gallup's point that Gore is viewed favorably by 84% of Democrats -- a full 10 percentage points higher than Clinton.

* If Gore follows Thompson's construct that he is "leaving the door open" for a Presidential run, the Democratic race will turn into a mad scramble probably ending up in a Gore v. Clinton stretch run next February 5.

* The Boston Globe has a piece by the AP's Nedra Pickler, wondering whether there is any substance to the Obama campaign.

* On the Secret Decoder Ring page today: Links to the transcript of Fred Thompson's interview on Fox, the Gallup analysis of this latest poll and the AP piece on Obama. Also a Mullfoto which makes me smile and a Catchy Caption of the Day which will make you wonder.


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: fred; fredthompson; giuliani; newt; thompson
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Some interesting thoughts from Rich Galen. I don't agree with him on everything, but I think it is pretty clear that he's right that currently, Fred Thompson is hurting Giuliani the most.
1 posted on 03/28/2007 7:29:36 AM PDT by B Knotts
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To: RockinRight

PING


2 posted on 03/28/2007 7:30:27 AM PDT by B Knotts (Newt '08! FReepmail me to get on the Newt '08 Ping List)
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To: B Knotts

Imagine a Thompson vs. Gore race.

That could be interesting.


3 posted on 03/28/2007 7:32:59 AM PDT by RockinRight (Support FREDeralism. Fred Thompson in 2008!)
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To: B Knotts
"leaving the door open" had generated a level of support which had him at 12%.

when the door actually does open, look out!!!!

4 posted on 03/28/2007 7:33:42 AM PDT by APRPEH (Hillary probably wouldn't approve, but I can live with that....)
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To: B Knotts
Key line:

* Rudy Giuliani is still popular with the GOP base but he, as I may have written before, will have a growing problem as more people become better acquainted with his official positions and personal background.

5 posted on 03/28/2007 7:34:58 AM PDT by TommyDale ("Rudy can win the War on Terror!" Perhaps, but for whose side?)
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To: B Knotts

Giuliani is throwing away his one chance to become President by running as a Republican instead of a Democrat.


6 posted on 03/28/2007 7:34:59 AM PDT by freedomfiter2 (Duncan Hunter '08 Pro family, pro life, pro second Amendment, not a control freak.)
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To: B Knotts

I hope and pray to God that Fred does run. The GOP has become far too liberal for my liking. It's time for us to return to the core conservative values we had under President Reagan and if there is anyone that can get us back there it's Fred.


7 posted on 03/28/2007 7:35:20 AM PDT by stm (Believe 1% of what you hear in the drive-by media and take half of that with a grain of salt)
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To: RockinRight

BTW, I think Rich Galen is exactly right about Romney. He had better start generating some excitement soon, or he might as well stop raising money.

As important as fundraising is, it can't replace support.


8 posted on 03/28/2007 7:35:26 AM PDT by B Knotts (Newt '08! FReepmail me to get on the Newt '08 Ping List)
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To: B Knotts
Gore has so much gravitas, he has to keep buying bigger suits.


9 posted on 03/28/2007 7:37:11 AM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: B Knotts
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10 posted on 03/28/2007 7:38:59 AM PDT by Popocatapetl
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To: freedomfiter2

Giuliani is throwing away his one chance to become President by running as a Republican instead of a Democrat.


BIGTIME


11 posted on 03/28/2007 7:42:47 AM PDT by TheKidster (you can only trust government to grow, consolidate power and infringe upon your liberties.)
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To: RockinRight

Thompson would eat Gore's lunch,iMo.


12 posted on 03/28/2007 7:43:05 AM PDT by marsapan
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To: B Knotts
Yep. Look, the Dems desperately want Algore to run so they can "have their Clinton and eat it too," without having to stomach Hillary. He has a tremendous amount of support from the moonbat wing.

Fred is drawing from Rudy now, but if he enters for sure, I think he'll pull from Rudy/Romney/Newt and everyone else except McCain. I don't know where McCain's 20% comes from, but I do know that in a general they would back EITHER Rudy or Thompson. The same can't be said of the Newt people.

So, in order (including electability), my favorites are: Fred Thompson, Mitt, Rudy, anyone but McCain.

13 posted on 03/28/2007 7:44:14 AM PDT by LS (CNN is the Amtrak of News)
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To: B Knotts
Yep. Look, the Dems desperately want Algore to run so they can "have their Clinton and eat it too," without having to stomach Hillary. He has a tremendous amount of support from the moonbat wing.

Fred is drawing from Rudy now, but if he enters for sure, I think he'll pull from Rudy/Romney/Newt and everyone else except McCain. I don't know where McCain's 20% comes from, but I do know that in a general they would back EITHER Rudy or Thompson. The same can't be said of the Newt people.

So, in order (including electability), my favorites are: Fred Thompson, Mitt, Rudy, anyone but McCain.

14 posted on 03/28/2007 7:44:20 AM PDT by LS (CNN is the Amtrak of News)
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To: B Knotts

Does anyone have an alternative theory as to why Giuliani would slide 13 points? Was it something he said?
On the contrary, it would seem that Rudy has gotten a lot of positive coverage lately. Hannity, in particular, was very accommodating to RG in a recent interview.

Thirteen points. Where's the macaca?


15 posted on 03/28/2007 7:45:37 AM PDT by Graymatter (Support FREDeralism in 2008!)
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To: RockinRight

Please, oh PLEASE, let it be Gore vs Thompson!!!!!


16 posted on 03/28/2007 7:46:55 AM PDT by Teacher317 (Are you familiar with the writings of Shan Yu?)
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To: TommyDale

* GOP voters are smarter than your average voter, they already know, and they really dont care if he doesnt please the whole party, he can beat Clinton and Obama, keep telling yourself Fred Thompson can, you'll have 4 years of Hillary to realize how wrong that is.


17 posted on 03/28/2007 7:48:41 AM PDT by ChiTownBearFan ("To see the world is to love America all the more"-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Teacher317

That would be perfect...Thompson would carry almost every state


18 posted on 03/28/2007 7:50:23 AM PDT by DenverGal
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To: freedomfiter2


19 posted on 03/28/2007 7:50:28 AM PDT by ConservativeWarrior (RUDY 2008: STRENGTH (On Abortion and Gun Control) & LEADERSHIP (of gay Pride Parades)!!!)
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To: Graymatter
"Does anyone have an alternative theory as to why Giuliani would slide 13 points?"

Sure. Conserviatives are now starting to wake up to Giuliani's wrongful positions on abortion, partial birth abortion, homosexual agenda, gun control, embryonic stem cell research, illegal immigration, global warming, etc.

20 posted on 03/28/2007 7:50:32 AM PDT by TommyDale ("Rudy can win the War on Terror!" Perhaps, but for whose side?)
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