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To: Tenacious 1
Do more research on this. The electric cars and even some of the hybrids today actually use more resources to build and operate over thier lifetime than some of our fuel guzzling SUVs.

Yes, that is currently true in some cases (the newer lithium ion batteries being used in electrics now are much lighter and cheaper, IIRC, and that technology is not yet fully matured). Nevertheless, it is possible under the laws of physics to improve battery storage and manufacturing techniques, and it is physically possible to construct the necessary electrical infrastructure to support all of this. It is not physically possible to grow enough ethanol and biodiesel crops to satisfy demand.

People will continually refuse to consider electric cars / nuclear power until we end up in a shooting war with Iran and gas goes $7.50 a gallon. Eventually, something's going to have to give, and when it does, it'll be ugly but only then will something actually get done.
66 posted on 03/30/2007 7:34:31 AM PDT by JamesP81 (Eph 6:12)
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To: JamesP81
People will continually refuse to consider electric cars / nuclear power

Electric cars are coming, even the plug-in ones. I don't know about nuclear power though; people tend to get scared over that. Then again, our nuke plant here is about to undergo expansion...but it took the threat of a lot of new coal plants to get it.
71 posted on 03/30/2007 7:38:29 AM PDT by P-40 (Al Qaeda was working in Iraq. They were just undocumented.)
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To: JamesP81

[It is not physically possible to grow enough ethanol and biodiesel crops to satisfy demand.]

You keep saying this. Please link three sources here saying that we can not provide enough crops to support it. Then I can intelligently debate it with you. I don't claim to be an expert and have done very little research myself. But I don't just buy it because someone said so. Give me something objective that I can chew on please. What little I have read says that are farming capacity is at about 50% of what it could be based on available farming land and current farm land that is not planted on. Again, I would have to go find where I got that, but based on what I know about how are government regulates and restricts farming, I believe it to be plausible. BTW - we are one of (if not still) the worlds largest farming exporters in the world.


155 posted on 03/30/2007 1:07:38 PM PDT by Tenacious 1 (No to nitwit jesters with a predisposition of self importance and unqualified political opinions!)
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