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To: GraniteStateConservative

Are you an atheist, then, because your idea of God does not seem to hold true in this life? Jessica Lunsford was a prime example of a bad thing happening to an otherwise good person. Perhaps you missed the part where without free will, we'd all be zombies. This isn't a computer simulation - people do horrible things to each other. Why that means there is no Creator is something only you can answer. It's pretty clear you've got a very solid idea of God in your head and because God doesn't live up to your standards, He doesn't exist.

Thanks for being one of the classic atheist exhibits.


63 posted on 03/30/2007 8:43:21 PM PDT by flintsilver7
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To: flintsilver7

Jesus says in all those verses I cited that prayers are answered. Jessica, as true blue of a believer as you'll find, didn't pray for material gain-- only for her kidnapper to stop kidnapping her, stop raping her, and stop burying her alive in a sack. Her prayers weren't answered. The prayers of 100% of amputees have been ignored, too. What believers attribute to answered prayer is merely a random event-- regardless of how improbable it might seem.

And dismissing this failure to answer Jessica's prayer and every single amputee and all the many other people who would meet any reasonable requirement for having their prayers answered as part of God's plan while believers report on getting their prayers answered for getting their prayer answered to find their car keys.

The God that I don't believe in is the one covered in the Bible. I am not going to waste time knocking down other religions' gods.

We have anarchy, not free will. Free will is interpreted to be something given to us by someone. We have chaos. We have randomness. Anarchy, chaos, and randomness don't speak to our world being controlled in any way by the Bible God. Every example of man's "free will" is evidence that we are alone in the world. Whether you are a good person or do good things, it doesn't at all follow in a causal way that you will be rewarded. Good things happen to good and bad people, and so do bad things.

Is it possible that some supreme being created the universe and then left his creation alone, no interaction, for evermore? Yeah, sure. But that doesn't change my view that there is no God by any degree of certainty worth concerning myself with-- and besides, the value of worshiping said God is the reward in the afterlife and since the Bible says God does interact with us, I can't take seriously that God has an afterlife for us or that we have any actual idea what is required to get there.

I am perfectly happy about knowing that death is it. It's not depressing to me at all. I enjoy life and living just fine.


74 posted on 03/30/2007 9:38:22 PM PDT by GraniteStateConservative (...He had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here...-- Worst.President.Ever.)
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