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Is there global warming 'truth'?
Toronto Sun ^ | 2007-03-31 | Salim Mansur

Posted on 04/02/2007 7:15:02 AM PDT by Clive

There is little disagreement in the media that Al Gore is greatly responsible for bringing the subject of man-made global warming into the public glare. Gore has been on a roll since the Academy Awards gave his film, An Inconvenient Truth, the prize for the best documentary of the year, and it will not be a surprise if the Norwegian Nobel committee awards him the peace prize for his efforts in the push to end man-made global warming.

Science and politics have co-existed in an uneasy relationship for a very long time. The reason is simple. In science "truth" is meant to be independent of human preferences and its discovery occurs through the scientific method of conjectures and refutations.

In politics "truth" is often a claim made on the basis of some authority -- church, charismatic leader, majority opinion in a democracy -- and selective evidence.

Politicians since Archimedes in ancient Greece have sought advice of scientists in the making of public policy. Yet there is a difference between open and closed societies in how scientific advice is sought and given, and in protecting the delicate balance between science and society.

The Gore phenomenon in an open society has placed science and politics at odds in a manner that is somewhat new. We are observing how celebrity status of a politician (or a former politician) in the media may bend the rules of science to serve a particular public policy.

Gore insists the causal connection between human activity and global warming is proven by consensus, and there are many scientists who agree.

But there is another body of scientific opinion that questions such consensus, and it views proposals for cutting back carbon emission as too heavy-handed and will do more damage to the economy of countries like Canada than the expected good.

I recall a neat story about Albert Einstein when asked how he felt that some 200 German scientists assembled by the Nazi regime had declared his science was bad. Einstein replied that all it took was one scientist to prove him wrong.

Gore and his supporters can draw upon science for their politics, reconcile contradictions between what they do and what they profess, and may even turn a profit out of the public policy they promote without breaking any laws.

Gore is the founding chairman of Generation Investment, a company established in 2004. It provides business with assessments of "risks and opportunities presented by climate change" for long term profitability, said David Blood, Gore's partner and former CEO of Goldman Sachs Asset Management.

Science is expected to be value-free and politically neutral. But scientists are human and not entirely immune to politics, especially when science is dependent on public-funding.

The insistence by Gore that his moral crusade is scientifically unimpeachable is confusing to that segment of the public who genuinely want to understand what to make of the unsettled debate among scientists about climate change and global warming. To resort to smear by parties on either side of the debate only deepens the suspicion of political considerations driving science.

We know from recent past experiences, however, that long-term predictions on issues where human agency and nature intersect -- such as population or renewable resources -- turned out differently.

This record of science being fallible might be a small consolation. Yet it is a helpful reminder. Scientists, when true to their vocation, will ask of the public not to abandon skepticism as a "truth" seeking tool -- unlike politicians in general being insistent on consensus when "truth" is uncertain.


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1 posted on 04/02/2007 7:15:03 AM PDT by Clive
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To: Alberta's Child; albertabound; AntiKev; backhoe; Byron_the_Aussie; Cannoneer No. 4; ...

Salim Mansur ping


2 posted on 04/02/2007 7:15:26 AM PDT by Clive
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To: Clive

Truth!?? You can't handle the truth!!!!! H.A.A.R.P.!!


3 posted on 04/02/2007 7:17:19 AM PDT by 100-Fold_Return (The Lord Talks)
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To: Clive

there are 2 GM truths:
1) global warming on Earth is hapenning along with GM on Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, Neptune and Plotu.
2) Humanity is NOT a major contributor to GM - see above.


4 posted on 04/02/2007 7:18:55 AM PDT by camle (keep your mind open and somebody will fill it full of something for you)
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To: camle

I meant GW. Why I put GM is beyond me...;-)


5 posted on 04/02/2007 7:19:29 AM PDT by camle (keep your mind open and somebody will fill it full of something for you)
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To: camle
Why I put GM is beyond me...;-)

Somethings are Made in America, and some things are not. Global Warming isn't.

6 posted on 04/02/2007 7:23:21 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Enoch Powell was right.)
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To: camle
Why I put GM is beyond me...;-)

GoreMarketing?

7 posted on 04/02/2007 7:23:37 AM PDT by JimRed ("Hey, hey, Teddy K., how many girls did you drown today?" (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help m)
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To: Clive
Last night on 60 minutes, there was a segment that I caught the end of about a scientist in Antarctica who has been keeping track of the rising temperatures there for several years. To prove his point that the warming is man made, he took the reporter to the top of a glacier and drilled an ice core sample. He stated that everything he needs to prove that the increase in carbon gasses are due to man's activity in the last 100 plus years are right there in the core sample. Then they switched to a locker where he keeps many more samples and he said the same thing again. He never did explain how the core sample prove his findings, but since he is a believer, it must be true...
8 posted on 04/02/2007 7:28:09 AM PDT by Dixie Yooper (Ephesians 6:11)
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To: Dixie Yooper

the whole thing is about beleif. the GW mopvement is evolving in to some sort of Druid-ish cult.

When people ask me if I beleive, I tell them my beleifs in GW is consistent with my beleif in Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny. It isn't about truth - it's about "beleif"


9 posted on 04/02/2007 7:30:49 AM PDT by camle (keep your mind open and somebody will fill it full of something for you)
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To: Clive
All I have to say:

Acid Rain
The coming Ice Age
Save the baby seals

Environmentalism is a low cost political issue for the politician pushing it. Most is neither based on true science nor are there real alternatives suggested. It's all emotional trash that is intended to grab the "heart" of the listener. Most of those leading the way on these so called "issues" are complete demagogues. This includes Green Peace as an organization, Gore, or most of these Hollywood celebs that want to add to their popularity by jumping on this bandwagon full of BS.

Environmentalism is a marketed product sold to consumers, nothing else. You can buy a high gloss color picture book on non-recycled paper celebrating the anniversary of Green Peace, or you can buy hemp pants, buy made up carbon credits, or buy over priced wind generated power. In the end, it's about making a buck, and often they are no more "green" than the ones they paint as evil and polluting. The business and politics of environmentalism is intriguing. Environmentalism like Tobacco shows that through good marketing you can sell people a can of fresh air or a pet rock.

10 posted on 04/02/2007 7:33:21 AM PDT by Red6 (Come and get it.)
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To: camle
1) global warming on Earth is hapenning along with GM on Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, Neptune and Plotu.

See my profile, point #2. Doesn't discuss Plotu, though.

11 posted on 04/02/2007 7:42:44 AM PDT by cogitator
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To: cogitator

Plotu - between Barada and Niktu;-)

Just as Gort - he knows.


12 posted on 04/02/2007 7:45:42 AM PDT by camle (keep your mind open and somebody will fill it full of something for you)
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To: camle

Me too, mind still reeling...


13 posted on 04/02/2007 7:45:52 AM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: cogitator

Haven't heard of Plotu, but it may be warming along with all the other plantes.


14 posted on 04/02/2007 7:48:15 AM PDT by palmer
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To: Clive
"Gore has been on a roll since the Academy Awards gave his film, An Inconvenient Truth..."

It was not Algores film. Algore was only an ACTOR in the film.

If a writer cannot understand this simple point, how can he understand large concepts?

15 posted on 04/02/2007 7:50:02 AM PDT by Leo Farnsworth
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To: Old Professer

that's you prof - always thinking about fishing;-)

(mind reeling. yeesh!)


16 posted on 04/02/2007 7:50:16 AM PDT by camle (keep your mind open and somebody will fill it full of something for you)
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To: camle

Camel: cogitator is write, there is no series warming in planets including earth. Need better explanations.


17 posted on 04/02/2007 7:50:25 AM PDT by palmer
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To: Clive
Are we a major factor in global warming. I don't think we're even close.

Can more be done around the world not to pollute and stink up the planet? I believe so.

18 posted on 04/02/2007 7:53:48 AM PDT by Texas_shutterbug
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To: Clive

The solar temperatures fluxuate.

We are in a constant state of flux.


19 posted on 04/02/2007 7:55:00 AM PDT by bannie
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To: Texas_shutterbug
Can more be done around the world not to pollute and stink up the planet? I believe so.

I can start by not eating the bean burritos at lunch.

20 posted on 04/02/2007 7:55:59 AM PDT by dfwgator (The University of Florida - Championship U)
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