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An Arid West No Longer Waits for Rain [desalination, long pipes to transport water]
The New York Times ^ | April 4, 2007 | RANDAL C. ARCHIBOLD and KIRK JOHNSON

Posted on 04/04/2007 8:38:34 AM PDT by grundle

A Western drought that began in 1999 has continued after the respite of a couple of wet years that now feel like a cruel tease. But this time people in the driest states are not just scanning the skies and hoping for rescue.

Some $2.5 billion in water projects are planned or under way in four states, the biggest expansion in the West’s quest for water in decades. Among them is a proposed 280-mile pipeline that would direct water to Las Vegas from northern Nevada. A proposed reservoir just north of the California-Mexico border would correct an inefficient water delivery system that allows excess water to pass to Mexico.

In Yuma, Ariz., federal officials have restarted an idled desalination plant, long seen as a white elephant from a bygone era, partly in the hope of purifying salty underground water for neighboring towns.

In Yuma, near the Arizona border with Mexico, officials have pinned hopes on a desalination plant built 15 years ago. The plan then had been to treat salty runoff from farms before it made its way into Colorado River headed to Mexico, thus meeting the terms of an old water treaty.

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There's plenty of water. They just need to use dealination and pipes to to a sufficient degree.
1 posted on 04/04/2007 8:38:36 AM PDT by grundle
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To: grundle

It’s about time they did this. Long overdue, IMO.


2 posted on 04/04/2007 8:41:29 AM PDT by EggsAckley
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To: grundle

They have noted how dry they are. They have also noted the price of gasoline. They have also noted how close they are to capacity in their power grid. Self-imposed constraints seem to be invisible to them.


3 posted on 04/04/2007 8:44:34 AM PDT by RightWhale (3 May '07 3:14 PM)
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To: grundle
"A proposed reservoir just north of the California-Mexico border would correct an inefficient water delivery system that allows excess water to pass to Mexico."

A more efficient method of delivering wet backs.

4 posted on 04/04/2007 8:44:43 AM PDT by Sam Ketcham (Amnesty means vote dilution, & increased taxes to bring us down to the world poverty level.)
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To: grundle
A proposed reservoir just north of the California-Mexico border would correct an inefficient water delivery system that allows excess water to pass to Mexico.

Do the Mexicans think it's "excess".

(Lake Meade in August sure looks delicious, though.)

5 posted on 04/04/2007 8:45:04 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets ("We will have peace with the Arabs when they love their children more than they hate us.")
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To: Sam Ketcham

The Inner tube business might pick up.


6 posted on 04/04/2007 8:53:01 AM PDT by unkus
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To: grundle
In Yuma, near the Arizona border with Mexico, officials have pinned hopes on a desalination plant built 15 years ago. The plan then had been to treat salty runoff from farms before it made its way into Colorado River headed to Mexico, thus meeting the terms of an old water treaty.

The misinformation in this paragraph alone makes the article suspect, there is more, which I won't go in to.

The water being desalinated is NOT runoff from farms, there is little to no runoff from the farms. The water being desalinated is pumped from the ground, to lower ground water levels in the Colorado River Valley.

7 posted on 04/04/2007 8:58:47 AM PDT by c-b 1 (Reporting from behind enemy lines, in occupied AZTLAN.)
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YOU LIVE IN A DESERT! YOU LIVE IN A F***ING DESERT! NOTHING GROWS OUT HERE! NOTHING'S GONNA GROW OUT HERE! YOU SEE THIS? HUH? THIS IS SAND. KNOW WHAT IT'S GONNA BE HERE A HUNDRED YEARS FROM NOW? IT'S GONNA BE SAND! YOU LIVE IN A F***ING DESERT! GET YOUR STUFF, GET YOUR SH*T, WE'LL MAKE ONE TRIP, WE'LL TAKE YOU TO WHERE THE FOOD IS!

8 posted on 04/04/2007 9:06:26 AM PDT by Vaquero (" an armed society is a polite society" Heinlein "MOLON LABE!" Leonidas of Sparta)
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To: Vaquero

You beat me to it. He was the first thing that popped in my mind when I read this. Sam Kinison: RIP.


9 posted on 04/04/2007 9:11:26 AM PDT by Spirochete
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To: grundle

Another misleading story, this is about stealing farmers water in northern Nevada, to aide in Harry Reeds real estate developments in the south.


10 posted on 04/04/2007 9:20:32 AM PDT by org.whodat (Never let the facts get in the way of a good assumption.)
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To: grundle
California is evolving a revolutionary business model for pumping water long distances. The effect imho will be to make it economically feasible to pump desalinized seawater long distances inland to the end user for rates that are competitive with current water costs.
11 posted on 04/04/2007 9:25:52 AM PDT by ckilmer
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To: ckilmer

Well, until water rates rise 400%, desalination makes no sense.


12 posted on 04/04/2007 9:31:15 AM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: grundle

Isn’t the obvious answer to build more reservoirs to catch runoff water?


13 posted on 04/04/2007 9:32:56 AM PDT by crv16
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To: grundle

I’m under the impression that “desertification” feeds off of itself, with dry conditions being exacerbated by a lack of condensation. Large scale pumping of desalinated water into a region, thereby reversing excessively dry conditions on the ground, should conversely lead to more rain, eventually, if this is true. I think of Israel, making the desert bloom, and tend to believe that might actually be the case.


14 posted on 04/04/2007 9:47:46 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: grundle
An agreement reached a few years ago between farmers and the Metropolitan Water District of Southern California, the chief supplier of water to that region, is one model. Under the terms of the agreement, farmers would let their fields lie fallow and send water to urban areas in exchange for money to cover the crop losses.

Stupid stupid stupid. All you have to do is let everyone bid for the water. Farmers, cities etc. Uneconomic farming (that exists only because of water subsidies) will transfer to better crops (growing rice in calif is stupid eg). Instead, you set up another layer of government welfare that makes the farmers dependent on the government.

15 posted on 04/04/2007 9:55:11 AM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: crv16
Isn’t the obvious answer to build more reservoirs to catch runoff water?

The obvious answer is to advise people not to live in deserts.

16 posted on 04/04/2007 10:04:38 AM PDT by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: BurbankKarl

imho the cost of water desalination will drop 500% in the next 7 years. Maybe more.


17 posted on 04/04/2007 10:16:20 AM PDT by ckilmer
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To: ckilmer

Well, that will be about 2 years too late!

Doh! Still cant believe they havent issued conservation notices yet in So Cal.


18 posted on 04/04/2007 10:25:57 AM PDT by BurbankKarl
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