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The Rudy GOP Shifts to the Center [er, plunges hard left - ed]
Front Page Magazine ^ | April 6, 2007 | Alan Nathan

Posted on 04/06/2007 5:43:31 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

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To: Sabramerican
Giuliani did not call for public funding of abortion.

For those who do not remember, Giuliani said in a speech back in 1989: “There must be public funding for abortions for poor women,” Giuliani says in the speech that is posted on the video sharing site YouTube. “We cannot deny any woman the right to make her own decisions about abortion.”

In an interview with CNN, Republican candidate Rudy Giuliani said that he continues to support public funding for some abortions. He explained: “Ultimately, it’s a constitutional right, and therefore if it’s a constitutional right, ultimately, even if you do it on a state by state basis, you have to make sure people are protected.”

Rudy backers are as big a liars as the Clintons.

421 posted on 04/06/2007 1:11:58 PM PDT by Ol' Sparky
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To: tkathy

“Godlike”? Hmmmm. There are others in NYC less enamored of of Saint Rudy.

It’s official: According to Mayor Giuliani’s latest fiscal plan, the next mayor will face a budget gap of $2.7 billion – which, if it actually materializes, will be $400 million more than the one Giuliani inherited from David Dinkins.

So much for the long term. Unfortunately, the short term doesn’t look so hot, either.

New York’s budget is still balanced, technically. But subtract last year’s leftover surplus, and the city would be running an operating deficit of $400 million, growing to $2.4 billion in the fiscal year that begins July 1. By the time Giuliani’s successor puts together his first fiscal plan, there won’t be much surplus left to work with.

The main culprit: city operations spending, which is up roughly 25 percent over the last four years and would grow another 4 percent next year under Giuliani’s plan….

At an absolute minimum, New York will still be locked into a trend of spending a half-billion or so more dollars than it collects in revenue every year – despite imposing the heaviest tax burden of any major city in the country.

E.J. McMahon, Manhattan Institute
New York Post, May 1, 2001


422 posted on 04/06/2007 1:12:26 PM PDT by narses ("Freedom is about authority." - Rudolph Giuliani)
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To: tkathy

BTW, what does your brother do for a living?


423 posted on 04/06/2007 1:13:05 PM PDT by narses ("Freedom is about authority." - Rudolph Giuliani)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

This thread isn’t about me. It is a thread about a liberal you back for the GOP nomination. Why do you back a liberal? What issues really matter to you?


424 posted on 04/06/2007 1:13:54 PM PDT by narses ("Freedom is about authority." - Rudolph Giuliani)
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To: narses

I mean, seriously, how many more red flags can go up on this guy’s candidacy ? As someone said, we’re not electing a Pope, but can’t we have SOME basic standards... like nominating someone who actually agrees with more than 5% of the party platform ? That’s why we need Fred Thompson.


425 posted on 04/06/2007 1:14:30 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Would you vote for President a guy who married his cousin? Me, neither. Accept no RINOs. Fred in '08)
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To: Mr. Brightside

And some Conservatives believe that the 2nd is the only Amendment.

How do you all feel about the Establishment Clause? Is the US a Christian nation?

Where is there, in the Constitution, a child porn, or any porn, exception to Freedom of the Press?

On it goes. Everyone knows they are a “Conservative” and why the other guy isn’t.


426 posted on 04/06/2007 1:14:32 PM PDT by Sabramerican
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To: dirtboy

427 posted on 04/06/2007 1:14:36 PM PDT by narses ("Freedom is about authority." - Rudolph Giuliani)
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To: betsyross1776
I know for a fact Rudy has trouble carrying the Catholic vote. He will not get the Mormon vote, after this.Not even if Mitt asks his people to support him . The pro life vote, I doubt will even come out.

Even worse, if he somehow gets elected, it opens the door for the Democrats in Congress to run as social conservatives and entrench the Democrats into the same kind of majority they had during the 1970s.

A Giuliani Presidency will return us to the Nixon era with a liberal Republican in the White House and an overwhelming Democratic majority in Congress. Can things get any worse than that?

428 posted on 04/06/2007 1:15:13 PM PDT by Ol' Sparky
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To: fieldmarshaldj; areafiftyone
Dead on. Rudy is about as bad as it gets. The words of the webmaster here:

To: areafiftyone

Give it up. Rudy is a flaming liberal.

78 posted on 04/06/2007 12:45:28 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

429 posted on 04/06/2007 1:16:46 PM PDT by narses ("Freedom is about authority." - Rudolph Giuliani)
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To: showme_the_Glory
"Hello, he is a Clinton in drag. They are not that different."
They are more different than night and day. hillary is the only major candidate with so clearly manifested totalitarian bent that were she to speak russian I would swear she's a soviet nomenklaturist. It has nothing to do with any political positions and everything to do with personality.
430 posted on 04/06/2007 1:18:58 PM PDT by GSlob
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To: Ol' Sparky

One more time.

Maybe it came as a shock to many.

There is public funding of abortion. Today, yesterday, and when Republicans controlled the Congress with a Pro Life President.

Giuliani said nothing- that I read- about expending the current law.

What he did was not pretend that he would do the impossible and deny that Medicaid funding.

“You can’t handle the truth” comes to mind.


431 posted on 04/06/2007 1:20:11 PM PDT by Sabramerican
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To: narses

I guess you have no candidate you want to pitch.


432 posted on 04/06/2007 1:20:50 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Please direct me to my angry posts. You just equated my children and myself to drug dealers? Were you trying to be cute with your innuendo? You’re damn skippy I’m proud of the fact that my kids would be able to defend themselves if such a nightmare would occur. They won’t be cowering in a corner defenseless waiting for help to arrive.

Ya’ll make me laugh. Reading your posts, the one thing that you stand by time and time again is Rudy’s toughness, he is the only one who can fight the war on terror, history propels one into leadership, whatever. What did Rudy to PREVENT TERROR while Mayor? He knew the WTC was a target. He wants to play offense after the fact. How can you be on offense regarding terrorists if you have a policy of not caring who is in your city, which btw, is a major terrorist target?


433 posted on 04/06/2007 1:21:04 PM PDT by panthermom (DUNCAN HUNTER 2008)
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To: GSlob

Rudy is even more authoritarian. He is a gun-grabbing liberal with mob ties, both business and family.


434 posted on 04/06/2007 1:21:18 PM PDT by narses ("Freedom is about authority." - Rudolph Giuliani)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Why do you back a liberal? What issues really matter to you?


435 posted on 04/06/2007 1:21:45 PM PDT by narses ("Freedom is about authority." - Rudolph Giuliani)
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To: narses

But you repeat yourself.


436 posted on 04/06/2007 1:22:14 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Ol' Sparky
This is the type of analysis & debate one needs in an attempt to persuade Rudy supporters to back another candidate. Endless references to x-dressing, etc. serve only to bore those who are well aware of his socially liberal positions.

What we really need is a rationale approach that diagrams what may result from such a nomination in terms of over-all electoral impact.

I, for one, would be willing to accept a leftward slip on social issues if a majority of our elected leaders would get on board & get serious about winning the WoT. IOW, I don't care if they're Bluedogs, Liebermans, etc - I'm just sick of our country being torn apart by leftists who are openly advocating defeat.

Arrest, trial, conviction & punishment for treason should have happened a long time ago for a long list of people.

437 posted on 04/06/2007 1:22:38 PM PDT by Chuck Dent
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To: Torie

Who the hell is the Supreme Court?

It’s my Constitution and I’ll cry if I want to- or interpret it as I see fit. Either one.


438 posted on 04/06/2007 1:23:31 PM PDT by Sabramerican
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To: narses
Why do you back a liberal? What issues really matter to you?

National security.

The Supreme Court.

Education.

Taxes.

National health care takeover.

Thank you for asking.

439 posted on 04/06/2007 1:24:13 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
He's different from Hilliary on national defense, private health care, educational choice and lower taxes.

That's not even true. He opposed school choice as mayor New York:

"He doesn't support tuition tax credits and vouchers." Sandra Feldman, President of N.Y.C. Teacher's Union, 1993. on Giuliani.

And, he isn't conservative on health care and doesn't have any ideas on health care that will improve it.

So, we're down to Rudy being conservative on two issues EVERY Republican agrees while being liberal on every other issue.

So, why shouldn't the Republican party nominate a unifier that will motivate its base that is strong on national security and taxes instead of a liberal that will tear it apart?

440 posted on 04/06/2007 1:24:24 PM PDT by Ol' Sparky
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