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Man50D wrote: “Conservatives are better off leaving the increasingly socialist Republicans and forming their own party.”

No, we most assuredly are not. There’s nothing the DemoRats would like better than to see the GOP split like you suggest. Doing so plays right into their strategy of divide and conquer.

Conservatives must save the Republican Party. We need it as much as it neeeds us. We must save it from:

People who have corrupted the Republican brand. This includes RINOs who vote for bigger spending and higher taxes (Arlen Specter, Lincoln Chafee), corrupt party hacks who break the law and drag the party’s name through the mud (Tom DeLay, Duke Cunningham), and anyone who sells out conservative principles in an attempt to gain or retain political power.

Conservatives can save the Republican Party by:

1. Promoting the ideals of the conservative movement.
2. Fostering and spreading the message that Conservative Republicans who stick true to their principles are more likely to win elections.
3. Building an online community of like-minded conservatives who seek changes in the way the Republican Party governs and to promote conservative Republicans who run for office.

http://www.savethegop.com/about/

Barry Goldwater and Ronald Reagan had to deal with the RINOs of their day. Those RINOs were known as “Country Club” Republicans back then. These two great icons of modern conservatism didn’t turn their backs on the GOP and walk away from it. They literally transformed it. Anyone who is worthy of being callled a conservative should follow their examples.

There’s nothing the DemoRats would like better than to see the GOP split like you suggest. Doing so plays right into their strategy of divide and conquer.

It's already happened! The Republican party played into thier hands along time ago!

Conservatives must save the Republican Party. We need it as much as it neeeds us.

Oh really? If that's true then why didn't people who share your views preempt the socialist takeover in the past? Conservatives certainly don't need the continued socialistic creep infecting the Republican party. You forget a very large block of unaffiliated voters are Conservatives fed up with the Republicans. They were so frustrated from the last election they either did not vote or voted for Demorats because they couldn't see the difference between the two "parties"!

This includes RINOs who vote for bigger spending and higher taxes (Arlen Specter, Lincoln Chafee), corrupt party hacks who break the law and drag the party’s name through the mud (Tom DeLay, Duke Cunningham), and anyone who sells out conservative principles in an attempt to gain or retain political power.

Specter and Chafee are not the RINOs. They belong to the majority of the "Republican Party". Conservatives are the minority and therefore are the RINOs. It's time conservatives accept this reality and deal with the socialists head on.

Conservatives can save the Republican Party by:

1. Promoting the ideals of the conservative movement.

2. Fostering and spreading the message that Conservative Republicans who stick true to their principles are more likely to win elections.

3. Building an online community of like-minded conservatives who seek changes in the way the Republican Party governs and to promote conservative Republicans who run for office.

Why weren't these steps implemented a long time ago? Point two can best be accomplished by Conservatives distinguishing themselves from the socialists. That can't be done so long as they remain associated with the Republicans.

Barry Goldwater and Ronald Reagan had to deal with the RINOs of their day. Those RINOs were known as “Country Club” Republicans back then. These two great icons of modern conservatism didn’t turn their backs on the GOP and walk away from it.

They didn't reform it for very long because now we have the likes of Specter and Chafee having considerable control over the Republicans while George Bush condones the illegal immigration flow and condemns the Minutemen as "vigilantes". The Republican party abandoned Reagan, Goldwater and the Conservatives.

Anyone who is worthy of being called a conservative should follow their examples.

Anyone who is worthy of being called a conservative needs to recognize the Republicans are decreasingly conforming to the Reagan and Goldwater conservative principles, recognize what republicans have become and take the bold step striking out on their own.

[... No, we most assuredly are not. There’s nothing the DemoRats would like better than to see the GOP split like you suggest. Doing so plays right into their strategy of divide and conquer. ..]

The republican party is not GOING to split its already split.. into smithereens.. Bush did it or started it with the immigration fiasco.. Sandy Berger.. and a hundred other things.. The tax cuts just threw a bone to the base.. Tha base is starting to get it.. Consider.. that there is no longer any organized right wing, evident.. They are hiding or watching..

Something is happening I don't know what it is..
Civil War war brewing maybe.. Many, like me, have about had it with the republican party.. we are just treading water.. The boats done overturned and on its back.. makeing funny sounds from the boiler room..