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The Few, the Proud, the Disillusioned
http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2007/04/07/MNGTTP4OGN1.DTL ^

Posted on 04/07/2007 11:56:26 AM PDT by World_Events

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2007/04/07/MNGTTP4OGN1.DTL

Mike Ergo is a 23-year-old honorably discharged Marine who fought in Fallujah. A tattoo on the inside of his left forearm depicts the first insurgent he killed in Iraq. A tattoo on his right arm reads: "Born to Fight." He loves the Marines, is proud of what he and his colleagues did overseas and is on inactive ready reserve through July 2009.

Yet a few weeks ago, the Walnut Creek native marched near the front of the anti-war demonstration that rolled through San Francisco. Yeah, he said, it felt odd to march among the 9/11 conspiracy theorists and socialists. Still, Ergo said he'd march again to underscore his opposition to U.S. foreign policy in Iraq and would try to bring more than the handful of Iraq War veterans who demonstrated with him last month.

But Ergo knows that the number of soldiers who publicly oppose the war is likely to remain small for now. A chief reason: Unlike the men drafted into military service during the Vietnam War, those fighting in Iraq are volunteers and feel obligated to be patriotic defenders of post-9/11 soil.

Yet a few signs of dissent are appearing in the military aside from conscientious objectors and newly realized pacificists. Last month, a career chief master sergeant in the Air Force wrote an opinion piece in the military newspaper Stars and Stripes opposing the war, and a busload of retired veterans and civilian activists toured military bases in the South, hoping to coax more support from active duty soldiers. Over the past month, more than 1,700 soldiers have signed an online Appeal for Redress -- www.appealforredress.org -- a legally sanctioned way for members of the military to oppose the war.

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1 posted on 04/07/2007 11:56:28 AM PDT by World_Events
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To: World_Events
BDS: It's more than just the Pres'.

Sicker and sicker the afflicted become, day after day the once rational succumb.


2 posted on 04/07/2007 12:00:19 PM PDT by I see my hands (_8(|)
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To: World_Events

Lies and false propaganda. I spit on the left wing.


3 posted on 04/07/2007 12:00:37 PM PDT by fr_freak
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To: World_Events

So Ergo,... you say it felt odd to march among the 9/11 conspiracy theorists and socialists. Did you ever stop to think why it felt odd? Perhaps, just perhaps, your inner soul was trying to tell you that it was wrong to march.


4 posted on 04/07/2007 12:04:51 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: World_Events
...a few signs of dissent are appearing in the military

But, those few signs will be magnified by the liberal MSM and liberal left in general to make it seem like the dissent amongst our military personnel is 100 times as large as it really is.
5 posted on 04/07/2007 12:05:51 PM PDT by adorno
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To: World_Events
Yet a few signs of dissent are appearing in the military aside from conscientious objectors and newly realized pacificists.
Sorry, but an Air Farce lifer and a bus load of retired veterans does not equal "dissent appearing in the military."
BTW - a "newly realized pacifist" is one who looks down between his legs and realizes there's nothing there.
6 posted on 04/07/2007 12:09:40 PM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: World_Events

Why post this horseshit?


7 posted on 04/07/2007 12:10:24 PM PDT by pissant (Have a blessed Good Friday)
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Hmmm. From a quick Google of his name, I’d have to say that Mike Ergo isn’t just your standard, run-of-the-mill anti-war veteran. It appears that he’s spent quite a bit of time in the forefront of that movement of late.


8 posted on 04/07/2007 12:13:24 PM PDT by RedsHunter
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To: oh8eleven

“BTW - a “newly realized pacifist” is one who looks down between his legs and realizes there’s nothing there.”

LOL!!! Excellent!

My male pacifist in-laws certainly fit that description.


9 posted on 04/07/2007 12:16:05 PM PDT by FarRightFanatic ("I'm Barack Hussein Obama...and I approved this taqiyya.")
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To: World_Events

Ergo sure has all the antiwar crowd talking points down pat and he used them all in this piece. Watada must be proud of him.


10 posted on 04/07/2007 12:20:39 PM PDT by jazusamo (http://warchronicle.com/TheyAreNotKillers/DefendOurMarines.htm)
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To: pissant

I disagree. We need to know what is being written out there.

Head in sand doesn’t work.


11 posted on 04/07/2007 12:25:58 PM PDT by Lorianne
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To: World_Events

What a piece of shit. Exactly what I would expect from the San Fran Gate!


12 posted on 04/07/2007 12:26:00 PM PDT by TheRedSoxWinThePennant
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To: oh8eleven
BTW - a "newly realized pacifist" is one who looks down between his legs and realizes there's nothing there.

I almost sprayed a mouthful of water on the moniter. Lol :)
13 posted on 04/07/2007 12:29:23 PM PDT by SoldierMedic (Rowan Walter, 23 Feb 2007)
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To: World_Events; bnelson44; armymarinemom
Over the past month, more than 1,700 soldiers have signed an online Appeal for Redress -- www.appealforredress.org -- a legally sanctioned way for members of the military to oppose the war.

That is a bald faced LIE! The "Appeal for Redress" began last September. Last October they hired Fenton Communications (the creators of cindy sheehag) to "market" their appeal. The first signatures were to be handed to CONgress around Martin Luther King day.

Buried in the very lengthy article of spin, you will find this:

But the limited expression of anti-war support among the military "just shows that the overwhelming majority of guys are in favor of the mission in Iraq," said Navy Lt. Jason Nichols. An information technology specialist stationed in Iraq, Nichols is asking soldiers to sign an online petition called Appeal for Courage, www. appealforcourage.org, that supports the mission...

The article does not tell you that 2040 have signed in support of our mission in Iraq since FEBRUARY 12, 2007.

There are no fancy shmancy marketing firms pushing their petition.

February 22, 2007, 10 days after its birth, the Appeal for Courage had 860 signatures while the "others" had only 1287 after nearly 6 months.

For a little background on Fenton Communications click here.

14 posted on 04/07/2007 12:33:39 PM PDT by Just A Nobody (PISSANT for President '08 - NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! Beware the ENEMEDIA)
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To: Just A Nobody
YOUR ACTION REQUESTED BY SOME TROOPS IN IRAQ: Please spread the word about an appeal for redress that people in the military can sign to show support for the mission. They are having problems getting the word out:


www.appealforcourage.org

If you haven't seen this yet: A campaign by active-duty troops asking Congress to drop plans for a withdrawal from Iraq. Lt. Jason Nichols, a 33-year-old naval projects officer who has been in Baghdad since mid-January, said the goal is to keep lawmakers focused on letting the military finish its mission in Iraq, and not prematurely declare failure

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7392499685041821301&hl=en

15 posted on 04/07/2007 12:46:56 PM PDT by bnelson44 (http://www.appealforcourage.org)
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Thank you! Meanwhile the Appeal for Courage has surpassed the Appeal for Redress with signatures. We still need more people!! If you know anyone who is active duty please pass the above link off to them.


16 posted on 04/07/2007 12:53:46 PM PDT by armymarinemom (My sons freed Iraqi and Afghan Honor Roll students.)
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To: Just A Nobody

Good post. Thanks.


17 posted on 04/07/2007 1:15:43 PM PDT by SIDENET (Now selling carbon offsets. Get some today!)
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To: fr_freak
The liberal media would love nothing more than to see our soldiers stop fighting and rebel against the war. They don’t care if this emboldens our enemies and leads to more American deaths. They only care about hurting president Bush and turning America into a drug infested gay society. I’m starting to think about how much better this country would be if we didn’t have gay liberals trying to destroy it.
18 posted on 04/07/2007 1:53:14 PM PDT by peeps36 (OUTLAWED WORDS--INSURGENT,GLOBAL WARMING,UNDOCUMENTED WORKER,PALESTINIAN,TERIMATED PREGNANCY)
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To: pissant

Because discourse is a good thing.


19 posted on 04/07/2007 2:37:09 PM PDT by definitelynotaliberal
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To: SoldierMedic
Thanks and welcome to FR.
Are you, or were you, an Army medic? Was Rowan Walter a friend?
20 posted on 04/07/2007 6:02:07 PM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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