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Christoper Miles: Why I'm Voting for Rudy Guiliani
Tampa Bay Online ^ | 4/6/07 | Chris Miles

Posted on 04/07/2007 2:30:04 PM PDT by meg88

Rudy Giuliani is the best presidential candidate.

On Thursday, April 5, there were two articles in the opinion section that led me to this conclusion. One was "Rudy would kill pro-life movement" written by Doug Patton and the other, "A New Yorker Remembers Rudy" written by Ted Rall.

Patton represents the religious right movement that has taken over the Republican Party. Within his article, he even commends Rudy Giuliani as a candidate. However he is ready to jettison a candidate on one issue only. Patton equates conservatism to pro-life. I would say that anyone who wants to have government tell others how to live by their religious standards is not conservative at all.

From Rudy's website: "Rudy Giuliani supports reasonable restrictions on abortion such as parental notification with a judicial bypass and a ban on partial birth abortion -- except when the life of the mother is at stake. He's proud that adoptions increased 66 percent while abortions decreased over 16 percent in New York City when he was mayor. But Rudy understands that this is a deeply personal moral dilemma, and people of good conscience can disagree respectfully. Ultimately he believes that it is a decision between a woman, her doctor, her family and her God.

Ted Rall is as far left as you can get. His article is spent on Rudy Giuliani's performance during and after 9/11 and his personality. He also chastises him for running off panhandlers. It is his opinion. He never mentions performance in other areas such as when Rudy restored fiscal discipline by controlling spending and cutting wasteful programs. He cut the size of city-funded government bureaucracy by nearly 20 percent -- excluding the number of cops on the street and teachers in the classroom.

He cut taxes 23 times in New York and turned a $2.3 billion budget deficit into a multi-billion dollar surplus, while balancing the city's budget. He put more cops on the street and more criminals in jail. He cut crime in half and reduced murders by two-thirds during his time as mayor. He accomplished this as a Republican mayor with a Democratic city council. Could a "self sabotaging, thin skinned bully" deliver these results?

The extreme right and left in politics dislike him as a candidate. To me, this is the best reason to vote for him.


TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: electionpresident; giuliani; rinorudy; rinowhine; rudy
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To: EternalVigilance

You already said, I think. That we’re left wingers? Potential baby killers? I think banjo pickin’ snake handler is kind of mild compared to that.


121 posted on 04/07/2007 7:47:33 PM PDT by zook
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To: narses

He’s just like George Bush. So you must think W is a lib. My! That goes against the opinion of the owner of this site! Ooooooooh, you’re in trouble!


122 posted on 04/07/2007 7:48:43 PM PDT by zook
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To: EternalVigilance; zook
“It’s a shame, though. Because the people you’re calling names have been the shock troops of the GOP for the last couple of decades.”

“Calling names”? Are you serious in equating my reference to some anti-rudy people as being anti-Republican, to the name-calling and disgusting postings that Rudy has been subjected to by these same people over and over again? Just yesterday I comments on a Hitler comparison on these threads. The level the anti-rudy peole can sink to is unbelievable, which makes this phony shock at being referred to as "anti-Republican" as laughable.

123 posted on 04/07/2007 7:48:44 PM PDT by Gop1040
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To: EternalVigilance

Well, who do you support?

I’m no longer committed to Giuliani, though I’m not opposed to him. Unless you are a DUmmie troll, this must be the moment you’ve been waiting for. There are likely others like me lurking thinking the same thing. Make your case.

Who do you support?


124 posted on 04/07/2007 7:49:21 PM PDT by JHBowden (Give peace a chance! Kill terrorists!)
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To: JHBowden
On defense, Giuliani has the most outspoken pro-American views

Bogus. NYC has hundreds of thousands of illegal foreign nationals living there because of Giuliani's flouting of our laws...laws designed to protect our national security. Neither he, nor you, know exactly who those people are.

Additionally, the Second Amendment is the ultimate protection for our national security, and Giuliani has a record of treating it like toilet paper.

125 posted on 04/07/2007 7:50:27 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: narses
Still quoting from the drunken character witness, Jimmy Breslin I see.
126 posted on 04/07/2007 7:50:52 PM PDT by Gop1040
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To: EternalVigilance

Again, who do you support?


127 posted on 04/07/2007 7:51:21 PM PDT by JHBowden (Give peace a chance! Kill terrorists!)
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To: JHBowden
I’m keeping my powder dry currently.

We all have a different role to play in every election. I think mine right now is in helping folks vet these candidates.

128 posted on 04/07/2007 7:52:13 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: Gop1040

The people you’re calling “anti-Republicans” are actual republicans.

Giuliani is a donkey in an elephant suit.


129 posted on 04/07/2007 7:54:11 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: EternalVigilance

That is a BS answer.


130 posted on 04/07/2007 7:54:14 PM PDT by JHBowden (Give peace a chance! Kill terrorists!)
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To: JHBowden

No it isn’t. It’s the truth. Sorry if you can’t handle the truth.


131 posted on 04/07/2007 7:57:14 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: EternalVigilance
“Giuliani is a donkey in an elephant suit.”

Thanks for proving my point.

132 posted on 04/07/2007 7:59:18 PM PDT by Gop1040
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To: zook
” I’m a conservative, a rational one. That makes me a minority on this thread I guess.”

Yes it does make you a minority, because conservatives don’t vote for liberals.
Rudy has in admitted that he’s no conservative, so why do you try to make him out to be something he isn’t? Maybe it’s time for you to face the possibility that you aren’t the conservative you once were.

“Rudy ain’t a lib.”

Apparently, you haven’t been paying attention to his record. Rudy is a liberal, and he’s made it clear that he doesn’t need the support of conservatives. Since I’m a conservative—he isn’t gonna get it. So, if you are a conservative—why are you supporting him?

Oh, and did I mention that conservatives don’t vote for liberals?

133 posted on 04/07/2007 7:59:23 PM PDT by dmw (Aren't you glad you use common sense, don't you wish everybody did?)
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To: EternalVigilance

So you think we should just hate *all* Republican candidates, and let the Democrats win. Are you certain you are not a troll?

Again, you win the Giuliani argument. I concede he is horrible on social issues. Now, who do you support?

Otherwise, if Giuliani is the only one that can win that will keep the country from getting nuked, I’ll pull the lever for him.


134 posted on 04/07/2007 7:59:47 PM PDT by JHBowden (Give peace a chance! Kill terrorists!)
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To: zook

LOL, you are on drugs. W doesn’t support abortion on demand, he didn’t sue gun-makers and he hasn’t embraced the Clinton policy regime.


135 posted on 04/07/2007 7:59:58 PM PDT by narses ("Freedom is about authority." - Rudolph Giuliani)
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To: Gop1040
Thanks for proving my point.

Sheesh. You're really desperate if you think that constitutes proof of anything. It was a simple statement of fact.

136 posted on 04/07/2007 8:00:50 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: JHBowden
So you think we should just hate *all* Republican candidates, and let the Democrats win.

You must have plucked that idea out of the ether, because it sure never came from anything I've ever posted.

137 posted on 04/07/2007 8:02:11 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: meg88

Message to the Republican Party.

Keep telling the religious right that you don’t want or need their votes but then then remember you can’t blame them when in Nov of 2008 you find out you did need their votes.


138 posted on 04/07/2007 8:03:09 PM PDT by kalee (The offenses we give, we write in the dust; Those we take, we write in marble. JHuett)
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To: JHBowden
Again, you win the Giuliani argument. I concede he is horrible on social issues.

Thank you.

Now, who do you support?

Are you deaf?

Otherwise, if Giuliani is the only one that can win that will keep the country from getting nuked, I’ll pull the lever for him.

Well, thank goodness that'll never happen, then...because the very idea that such is the case is silly.

139 posted on 04/07/2007 8:04:26 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: EternalVigilance

Well, who do you support then? Who is on your grocery list at least?

Otherwise, my conclusion that you are a Dem troll is logical. You guys have won the Giuliani argument. Now it is time to step up to the plate.


140 posted on 04/07/2007 8:04:35 PM PDT by JHBowden (Give peace a chance! Kill terrorists!)
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