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Democrat met opposition leader in Egypt (Steny Hoyer met Muslim Brotherhood's parliament leader)
AP on Yahoo ^ | 4/7/07 | Nadia Abou El-Magd - ap

Posted on 04/07/2007 3:53:36 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

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To: Anti-Bubba182

I would say you hit the nail on the head!!

Fox News just reported it on a news break tonight...but, I have had Fox News Channel on all day..and it hasn’t been reported until tonight.


161 posted on 04/07/2007 9:10:23 PM PDT by Txsleuth
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To: Txsleuth
Right! This is no accident. They always claim otherwise. It is like that pablum puking Jane Hall, O'Reilly has on from time to time. They will forever claim they are not trying to present the news to the advantage of the left, but they do it all the time!

Steny ought to be raked over the coals on this. He has no business causing problems with US relations with EGYPT.

162 posted on 04/07/2007 9:19:27 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: NormsRevenge
To bad the tree $teny, $penney Hoyer hit when he Supposedly fell a sleep at the wheel { I personally think he was drunk} wasn’t bigger!
163 posted on 04/07/2007 9:22:11 PM PDT by ustanker (Secure the border!)
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To: NormsRevenge
Put Pelosi and Hoyer in adjacent cells.

I'd rather put them on adjacent gibbets.

After a Fair (or at least so-so) trial, Good conviction, Better appeal denial, and Best sentencing, of course.

164 posted on 04/07/2007 9:26:55 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (Islam: a Satanically Transmitted Disease, spread by unprotected intimate contact with the Koranus.)
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To: NormsRevenge

But don’t you DARE call them anti-American!


165 posted on 04/07/2007 9:44:49 PM PDT by Darkwolf377 (Anti-socialist Bostonian, Anti-Illegal Immigration Bush supporter, Pro-Life Atheist)
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To: NormsRevenge
This is all starting to appear like a disturbing trend amongst the Democrat leaders.
166 posted on 04/07/2007 9:48:38 PM PDT by R_Kangel ("Please insert witty tag-line here")
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To: Txsleuth

I think that is the key to their appeal. They are intelligent, knowledgeable and able to convey their thoughts without trying to out shout others on the panel.

They’ve got the dems pegged! The show is a must see for me. It helps to know there are some that haven’t been lost to the ‘dark side’.


167 posted on 04/07/2007 10:09:03 PM PDT by windchime (I consider the left one of the fronts on the WOT(everything not sourced should be regarded as IMO))
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To: Txsleuth

Thanks for posting. This is treason.


168 posted on 04/07/2007 10:49:22 PM PDT by rdl6989
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To: Txsleuth

“I have had Fox News on all day...I haven’t heard anything about this..”

Of course not, there’s no time between the Anna Nicole coverage, car chases, and other “news.”


169 posted on 04/07/2007 11:07:17 PM PDT by GovernmentIsTheProblem (Capitalism is the economic expression of individual liberty. Pass it on.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Goin’ for the hat-trick! Next will be Murtha in Palestine with a candlestick...


170 posted on 04/07/2007 11:40:32 PM PDT by pillut48 (CJ in TX (Bible Thumper and Proud!))
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To: NormsRevenge

you can BET this story goes NOWHERE along with harry reid’s felonious real estate ‘deals’, sandy burglar’s looting of the national archives, the various and multiple felonies engaged in by the KLIN-TONS, the drunkenKennedy’s ‘love child’ story that got 86’ed. the $90,000 in freezer loot stolen by a DIMocRAT in La. Man, talk about a ‘culture of corruption’. Im running out of space here...lol


171 posted on 04/08/2007 6:38:16 AM PDT by Jazzman1 (l)
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To: NormsRevenge
“Hassan said the two lawmakers discussed developments in the Middle East, the “Brotherhood’s vision” and opposition movements in Egypt.”

To wipe out Israel
To wipe out the US
To wipe out the UK
Apply sharia law
Use the Mujahideen as the enforcers to sharia law.

172 posted on 04/08/2007 7:11:58 AM PDT by tobyhill (only wimps believe in retreat in defeat)
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To: NormsRevenge; All

Is Steny a Blue Dog rat??????


173 posted on 04/08/2007 7:18:13 AM PDT by KevinDavis (?To be prepared for war is one of the most effectual ways of preserving peace? ?)
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To: NormsRevenge

Zarahiri was a member of the Muslim Brotherhood. He is Egyptian. He is Al Qaeda’s number 2.


174 posted on 04/08/2007 7:35:03 AM PDT by PghBaldy (Reporter: Are you surprised? Nancy Pelosi: No. My eyes always look like this.)
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To: Txsleuth

Good point. There’s a few I’ve seen on Fox who seem to have gone native. One formerly Amb to Saudi Arabia. I sure hope the RNC uses ALL of this stuff the top Dems are doing. They are overplaying their hand, and it needs to get out.


175 posted on 04/08/2007 7:39:16 AM PDT by PghBaldy (Reporter: Are you surprised? Nancy Pelosi: No. My eyes always look like this.)
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To: NormsRevenge
"There's been a growing sense in Washington over 20 years that Islamic politics are here to stay, and the U.S. interest in promoting democracy around the world means we should be engaging with a growing number of actors," Alterman said.

Frankly, I fail to see the point of engaging with people that are intent on destroying us and/or our way of life.

176 posted on 04/08/2007 8:32:45 AM PDT by wysiwyg (What parts of "right of the people" and "shall not be infringed" do you not understand?)
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To: mware; NormsRevenge; Sender

al-Qaeda originated and grew from several jailed members of Muslim Brotherhood (al-Ikhwan al-Muslimun) and splinter group Egyptian al-Jihad (which al-Zawahiri was running).

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/DK08Ak03.html

Islamism, fascism and terrorism (Part 2)
By Marc Erikson
November 8, 2002

Osama bin Laden has the money, proven organizational skills, combat experience, and the charisma that can confer the air of wisdom and profundity even on inchoate or trivial utterances and let what’s unfathomable appear to be deep in the eyes of his followers. But he’s no intellectual. The brains of al-Qaeda and its chief ideologue by most accounts is Egyptian physician Ayman al-Zawahiri, 51, the organization’s number two man and former head of the Egyptian al-Jihad, which was merged with bin Laden’s outfit in February 1998 to form the “International Front for Fighting Jews and Crusaders”.

Al-Zawahiri hails from an elite Egyptian family. His father was a professor at Cairo University’s medical school from which Ayman graduated in 1974. His paternal grandfather was the Grand Imam at the al-Azhar Institute, Sunni Islam’s paramount seat of learning. His great-uncle, Abdel-Rahman Azzam, was the first secretary-general of the Arab League.

Such family background notwithstanding, perhaps because of it, al-Zawahiri joined the radical Islamist Muslim Brotherhood (al-Ikhwan al-Muslimun) as a young boy and was for the first time arrested in 1966 at age 15, when the secular government of President Gamal Abdel Nasser rounded up thousands of al-Ikhwan members and executed its top leaders in retribution for repeated assassination attempts on the president. One of those executed by hanging was chief ideologue Sayyid Qutb. Al-Zawahiri is Qutb’s intellectual heir; he has further developed his message, and is putting it into practise.

But without Qutb, present-day Islamism as a noxious amalgam of fascist totalitarianism and extremes of Islamic fundamentalism would not exist. His principal “accomplishment” was to articulate the social and political practices of the Muslim Brotherhood from the 1930s through the 1950s - including collaboration with fascist regimes and organizations, involvement in anti-colonial, anti-Western and anti-Israeli actions, and the struggle for state power in Egypt - in demagogically persuasive fashion, buttressed by tendentious references to Islamic law and scriptures to deceive the faithful. Qutb, a one-time literary critic, was not a religious fundamentalist, but a Goebbels-style propagandist for a new totalitarianism to stand side-by-side with fascism and communism.

Hitler’s early 1933 accession to power in Germany was widely cheered by Arabs of all different political persuasions. When the “Third Reich” spook and horrors were over 12 years later, a favorite excuse among those who felt the need for one was that the Nazis had been allies against the colonial oppressors and “Zionist intruders”. Many felt no need for an excuse at all and simply bemoaned the fact that the Nazis’ “final solution” to the “Jewish problem” had not proved final enough. But affinities with fascism on the part of the Muslim Brotherhood and other segments of Arab and Muslim society went much deeper than collaboration with the enemy of one’s enemies, and collaboration itself took some extreme forms.

Substitute religious for racial purity, the idealized ummah of the rule of the four righteous caliphs of the mid-7th century for the mythical Aryan “Volksgemeinschaft”, and most ideological and organizational precepts of Nazism laid out by chief theoretician Alfred Rosenberg in his work The Myth of the 20th Century and by Adolf Hitler in Mein Kampf, and later put into practice, are in all essential respects identical to the precepts of the Muslim Brotherhood after its initial phase as a group promoting spiritual and moral reform. This ranges from radical rejection of “decadent” Western political and economic liberalism (instead embracing the “leadership principle” and corporatist organization of the economy) to endorsement of the use of terror and assassinations to seize and hold state power, and all the way to concoction of fantastical anti-Semitic conspiracy theories linking international plutocratic finance to Freemasonry, Zionism and all-encompassing Jewish world control.

Not surprisingly then, as Italian and German fascism sought greater stakes in the Middle East in the 1930s and ‘40s to counter British and French controlling power, close collaboration between fascist agents and Islamist leaders ensued. During the 1936-39 Arab Revolt, Admiral Wilhelm Canaris, head of German military intelligence, sent agents and money to support the Palestine uprising against the British, as did Muslim Brotherhood founder and “supreme guide” Hassan al-Banna. A key individual in the fascist-Islamist nexus and go-between for the Nazis and al-Banna became the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, Haj Amin el-Husseini - incidentally the later mentor (from 1946 onward) of a young firebrand by the name of Yasser Arafat.

Having fled from Palestine to Iraq, el-Husseini assisted there in the short-lived April 1941 Nazi-inspired and financed anti-British coup. By June 1941, British forces had reasserted control in Baghdad and the mufti was on the run again, this time via Tehran and Rome to Berlin, to a hero’s welcome. He remained in Germany as an honored guest and valuable intelligence and propaganda asset through most of the war, met with Hitler on several occasions, and personally recruited leading members of the Bosnian-Muslim “Hanjar” (saber) division of the Waffen SS.

Another valued World War II Nazi collaborator was Youssef Nada, current board chairman of al-Taqwa (Nada Management), the Lugano, Switzerland, Liechtenstein, and Bahamas-based financial services outfit accused by the US Treasury Department of money laundering for and financing of Osama bin Laden’s al-Qaeda. As a young man, he had joined the armed branch of the “secret apparatus” (al-jihaz al-sirri) of the Muslim Brotherhood and then was recruited by German military intelligence. When Grand Mufti el-Husseini had to flee Germany in 1945 as the Nazi defeat loomed, Nada reportedly was instrumental in arranging the escape via Switzerland back to Egypt and eventually Palestine, where el-Husseini resurfaced in 1946.

©2002 Asia Times Online Co, Ltd.


177 posted on 04/08/2007 9:37:33 AM PDT by CutePuppy (If you don't ask the right questions you may not get the right answers)
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To: CutePuppy

Thanks for that article!


178 posted on 04/08/2007 11:25:31 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ...... BumP'n'Run 'Right-Wing Extremist' since 2001 ... My profile is on FiRe!)
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To: CutePuppy

Thanks for posting that article, CP!


179 posted on 04/08/2007 11:29:45 AM PDT by Txsleuth
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To: Bobbisox

Text of the Logan Act:

§ 953. Private correspondence with foreign governments.
Any citizen of the United States, wherever he may be, who, without authority of the United States, directly or indirectly commences or carries on any correspondence or intercourse with any foreign government or any officer or agent thereof, with intent to influence the measures or conduct of any foreign government or of any officer or agent thereof, in relation to any disputes or controversies with the United States, or to defeat the measures of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.
This section shall not abridge the right of a citizen to apply himself, or his agent, to any foreign government, or the agents thereof, for redress of any injury which he may have sustained from such government or any of its agents or subjects.
1 Stat. 613, January 30, 1799, codified at 18 U.S.C. § 953 (2004).

The clear intent of this provision [Logan Act] is to prohibit unauthorized persons from intervening in disputes between the United States and foreign governments. Nothing in section 953 [Logan Act], however, would appear to restrict members of the Congress from engaging in discussions with foreign officials in pursuance of their legislative duties under the Constitution. In the case of Senators McGovern and Sparkman the executive branch, although it did not in any way encourage the Senators to go to Cuba , was fully informed of the nature and purpose of their visit, and had validated their passports for travel to that country. Senator McGovern’s report of his discussions with Cuban officials states: “I made it clear that I had no authority to negotiate on behalf of the United States — that I had come to listen and learn....” (Cuban Realities: May 1975, 94th Cong., 1st Sess., August 1975). Senator Sparkman’s contacts with Cuban officials were conducted on a similar basis. The specific issues raised by the Senators (e.g., the Southern Airways case; Luis Tiant’s desire to have his parents visit the United States) would, in any event, appear to fall within the second paragraph of Section 953. Accordingly, the Department does not consider the activities of Senators Sparkman and McGovern to be inconsistent with the stipulations of Section 953.[8]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logan_Act

Fry the friggin traitors!!! The freakin dems cry bloody murder when Pres. Bush excersizes his presidential priveledges and fires anyone for any reason, yet the spineless liberal whelps trot overseas to collaborate with the enemy against the will of the President? Enough of this crap- start enforcing this logan act now!


180 posted on 04/08/2007 11:50:22 AM PDT by CottShop
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