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To: AaronInCarolina

“Yes, the mid troposhere is warmer than the original conclusions made by Christy et al, but only by 0.035 degC per decade. It did not change the overall conclusion that warming in the upper parts of the troposphere does not match greenhouse gas theory.”
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“The improper use of weighting functions originally appeared to bring the tropospheric trends more in line with surface trends and model predictions, so if you choose to use those improperly weighted (with height) data sets, you can also then satisfy yourself that there is no discrepancy. We do not agree with that.”

Great post. Doesn’t matter to the global warming alarmists that the data don’t match their theories... they can make their models fit anything ... even designing a dress. I notice that the IPCC seems to have lowered several of their even more alarmist 2001 contentions probably for the same reason so they don’t get laughed off the planet:

Lowered the high end of their temperature range by 2C.
Lowered the sea level rise by a factor of about 2.
Lowered their “confidence level” from 95% to “90%”.

Meanwhile it is ever more clear that the temperature data they started out their “quest” with in the 80s was faulty, and quite surprisingly, the Sun is warmer now than ever before in human written history.

But the alarmists only notice the polar bears floating on icebergs as they always have, and that the Arctic Ocean is becoming navigable... as it was in the early part of the last millenium - can you say Marco Polo?

They’re all trying to get more power and more money and more control of the lives of the world’s population. The real scientists who look at the data, like Lindzen, state accurately that the CO2 is more an effect, not a cause, of the temperature rise - which is primarily driven by the Sun.


215 posted on 04/11/2007 12:53:00 PM PDT by AFPhys ((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
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To: AFPhys; AaronInCarolina
Reviewing some of this thread, I read my “IPCC lowered” items. I just realized something the IPCC hasn’t yet raised, and that I suspect that the reality of the failure of Europe and other Kyoto signers to meet their minuscule “targets” with minimalist expenditures will soon start forcing: the COST of even relatively small, rapid reductions of CO2.

It is clearly going to be much more costly to force the planet to lower CO2 than they want to reveal or admit... thus they are going to greatly inflate the cost of a small amount of warming to make the enormous cost of reducing CO2 seem palatable to the unquestioning flock.

255 posted on 04/12/2007 4:13:40 PM PDT by AFPhys ((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
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