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Taxes: Y Asks Why, Boomers Ask Why Not
Investor's Business Daily Editorials ^ | 10 April 2007 | Robert Samuelson

Posted on 04/10/2007 7:21:00 PM PDT by shrinkermd

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To: staytrue

Ship the poor and infirm to china or vietnam where the can receive decent care at a very low price.


Dont let the libs hear your idea —— put NOTHING past them.


21 posted on 04/10/2007 7:59:57 PM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: shrinkermd

I was born in 1953. My kids were born in 1979, 1984, 1987 and 1990. They are all super conservative or even libertarian. They are against taxes and euthanasia and Social Security, but I wonder how many gen-y-ers will be so sanguine. I’ve always believe Terri Schiavo (and Hugh Finn, Nancy Cruzan and other poor souls) were test cases for the tough times ahead. Gulp!


22 posted on 04/10/2007 8:01:03 PM PDT by TenthAmendmentChampion (Pray for our President and for our heroes in Iraq and Afghanistan, and around the world!)
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To: shrinkermd

The better alternative would be to actually fund retirees costs, like a pension fund does, rather than run a ponzi scheme.


23 posted on 04/10/2007 8:01:18 PM PDT by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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To: shrinkermd

We need to start personal accounts and transition SS from a government Ponzi scheme to a private pension system. countries have already done so including the UK and Chile. What we have been witnessing is a massive wealth transfer from the young to the old.


24 posted on 04/10/2007 8:02:15 PM PDT by kabar
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To: shrinkermd
Infuriated at the injustices awaiting her generation, ...

Bah. In my time, a million dollars (or a billion dollars) wouldn't even buy an iPod Nano. Now you can get 10,000 songs on a device you can carry in your pocket.

25 posted on 04/10/2007 8:03:59 PM PDT by AZLiberty (Tag to let -- 50 cents.)
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To: Paleo Conservative
But the US taxes foreign income.

Only if you are making more than $85K per year (I think that is the current limit). You can live pretty well for even $24K per year in some countries.

26 posted on 04/10/2007 8:06:33 PM PDT by ikka
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To: Vigilanteman
We wouldn't if boomers could stay in the workforce longer.

Then nobody will get promoted as the oldsters continue to hog the top positions causing depressed wages in the prime earning years of Gen X and less opportunity for Gen Y causing the need for even more labor to be imported.

It's not that simple....

Besides, they already upped the retirement age for Gen X.

27 posted on 04/10/2007 8:06:47 PM PDT by Cogadh na Sith (There's an open road from the cradle to the tomb.)
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To: shrinkermd
Social Security and Medicare are an essential part of the social fabric. Millions depend on them. But the vast benefits — paid too early and too indiscriminately — have become disconnected from genuine need. Unless the two are reconnected, these successful programs will tear at the social fabric.

Just another communist. The idiocy of people is that they believed if they gave the Feds their money, the Feds would look after them. Remember when Hillary gave that speech and said she could take Exxon's 42 billion dollar profit and do great things with it? She could run the Federal government for one and a half days. If the fifteen percent of income boomers paid into SS had been put in interest bearing accounts, or invested prudently in the stock market, there'd be an even bigger labor shortage than there is now. The Federal government is a bottomless pit of promises and taxes.

28 posted on 04/10/2007 8:07:23 PM PDT by Richard Kimball
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To: shrinkermd

SS is a giant Ponzi scheme and anybody who can’t see that is a dunce. The govt. has stolen from me the last 40 years to fund it, so I’m taking early benefits and bleeding SS for all I can get. I am not going to be fool enough to put myself in a position where I depend on SS for my basic needs. If the kids want to riot over taxes, have at it. Hopefully they will lynch the scumbag politicians.


29 posted on 04/10/2007 8:08:07 PM PDT by tickmeister (tickmeister)
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To: ikka

But lots of entrepeneurs make a lot more than $85K per year.


30 posted on 04/10/2007 8:08:21 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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To: shrinkermd

There’s no need for anything that drastic.

Raise the retirement age (including eliminating early retirement) continuously over the next several years and double the earnings limit. That will keep it solvent. Then once that’s done, do some restructuring, like no longer linking the inflation index to the rate increases.


31 posted on 04/10/2007 8:16:07 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (If the GOP were to stop worshiping Free Trade as if it were a religion, they'd win every election)
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To: shrinkermd
we are in ourmiddle 50's and we will not get lavish benefits from anybody....not our fault since my husbands' long career at one company came crashing down thru IMO a fraudulent bankruptcy.....

but whatever.....

we are volunteers and we know lots of people our age who volunteer, so I have the expectation that that will be a huge part of our retirement if we ever get there.....

we will not get civil servant type benefits, we already pay huge SS taxes and Medicare and Property and gasoline and every other tax imagined AND income taxes.....

so we pay, we volunteer, we help our kids pretty generously IMO....paying college costs and a wedding and getting first cars, etc....

what the H do people want from us....

you better believe we will take whatever SS benefit there is....we deserve it.

32 posted on 04/10/2007 8:17:22 PM PDT by cherry
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To: Clintonfatigued
I just wonder, since you want me to work longer, if you are already retired or if YOUR retirement guarenteed by the govt?

so easy for people on easy street to tell the rest of us to keep working til were 70....

33 posted on 04/10/2007 8:21:06 PM PDT by cherry
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To: shrinkermd

“Still, boomers deserve special disapproval.”

I and the rest of my family, certainly disagree to the utmost with the above quote.

Yes, my last name is Boomers and it is amazing how much we have made the news the last few years. :-)


34 posted on 04/10/2007 8:24:44 PM PDT by rgboomers (This space purposely left blank)
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To: TenthAmendmentChampion

believe=believed. Sheesh!


35 posted on 04/10/2007 8:25:12 PM PDT by TenthAmendmentChampion (Pray for our President and for our heroes in Iraq and Afghanistan, and around the world!)
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To: shrinkermd
First, a generational backlash is inevitable.

This Gen-X'er says it sure is.


36 posted on 04/10/2007 8:25:28 PM PDT by rdb3 (SELECT * FROM users WHERE clue > 0 (Get well Snowman!))
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To: cherry
so we pay, we volunteer, we help our kids pretty generously IMO....paying college costs and a wedding and getting first cars, etc....

I'll never get that chance to spoil my kids like baby boomers, I'll be paying for you instead of my kids.

what the H do people want from us....

It's not my fault your husband sank the nest egg into the company he worked for instead of diversifying it. Why should I have to pay for it? I've been laid off 4 times. It's a different world now.....

you better believe we will take whatever SS benefit there is....we deserve it.

There it is, the entitlement mentality: "We deserve it." No, you deserve to suffer for being improvident dopes.

37 posted on 04/10/2007 8:26:08 PM PDT by Cogadh na Sith (There's an open road from the cradle to the tomb.)
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To: cherry

Oh, no, I’m many, many years from being retired. Chances are, I won’t be able to retire until I’m in my 70’s.

The unfortunate fact is, there are no easy answers to this problem. This is simply making the best of a bad situation. If you think there’s a better way, by all means inform me.


38 posted on 04/10/2007 8:28:20 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (If the GOP were to stop worshiping Free Trade as if it were a religion, they'd win every election)
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To: M203M4
Thanks Wilson. Thanks FDR. Thanks Johnson.

Better thank Congress.

Just think how different the USA would be if the
Founding Fathers had included term limits in the
Constitution.

39 posted on 04/10/2007 8:40:45 PM PDT by cliff630 (whwn)
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To: shrinkermd; Paleo Conservative; Clemenza; Cacique
1. The solution of the governing class is to import more cheap labor.
Of course this is not a fix at all. These under-educated workers won't want to be a slave caste. Moreover, they will be a net drain on social services.

2. Robert Samuelson is a neo-Keynesian economist.
40 posted on 04/10/2007 8:42:20 PM PDT by rmlew (It's WW4 and the Left wants to negotiate with Islamists who want to kill us , for their mutual ends)
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