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Rudy Giuliani - Life Long Liberal (LARGE RESOURCE - Research Thread)
George Marlin ^ | George J. Marlin

Posted on 04/11/2007 10:15:51 AM PDT by Spiff

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To: mkjessup

He also never mentions what specific policy he implemented that lead to that.

That’s probably because he can’t. He had nothing to do with it.


81 posted on 04/11/2007 11:37:27 AM PDT by flashbunny (<--- Free Anti-Rino graphics! See Rudy the Rino get exposed as a liberal with his own words!)
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To: All

Some of these may be repeats, but from a different source:

The New York State Liberal Party on Rudy Giuliani:

Some ask, How can the Liberal Party support a candidate who disagrees with the Liberal Party position on so many gut issues? But when the Liberal Party Policy Committee reviewed a list of key social issues of deep concern to progressive New Yorkers, we found that Rudy Giuliani agreed with the Liberal Party’s stance on a majority of such issues. He agreed with the Liberal Party’s views on affirmative action, gay rights, gun control, school prayer and tuition tax credits. As Mayor, Rudy Giuliani would uphold the Constitutional and legal rights to abortion.
—N.Y.S. Liberal Party Endorsement Statement of R. Giuliani for Mayor of New York City April 8, 1989

On the Republican Party:

Mr. Rockefeller represented “a tradition in the Republican Party I’ve worked hard to re-kindle - the Rockefeller, Javits, Lefkowitz tradition.”

—Rudy Giuliani
New York Times
July 9, 1992

What kind of Republican? Is [Giuliani], for instance, a Reagan Republican? [Giuliani] pauses before answering: “I’m a Republican.”

—Village Voice
January 24, 1989

On Attending 1996 Republican Convention:

Rudy even expressed his pleasure when he wasn’t invited to the Republican National Convention in San Diego. “If I take three or four days off from city business, I want to do it for a substantive purpose. It didn’t seem to me any substantive purpose could be served by going to the Republican convention.”

—Rudy - An Investigative
Biography of Rudolph Giuliani,
Page 459, Wayne Barrett

On Barry Goldwater:

He [Giuliani] described John Kennedy as “great and brilliant.” Barry Goldwater was an “incompetent, confused and sometimes idiotic man.”

—New York Daily News,
May 13, 1997

On President Bill Clinton:

Shortly before his last-minute endorsement of Bob Dole in the 1996 presidential election, [Giuliani] told the Post’s Jack Newfield that “most of Clinton’s policies are very similar to most of mine.” The Daily News quoted [Giuliani] as saying that March: “Whether you talk about President Clinton, Senator Dole.... The country would be in very good hands in the hands of any of that group.”

Revealing at one point that he was “open” to the idea of endorsing Clinton, he explained: “When I ran for mayor both times, ‘89 and ‘93, I promised people that I would be, if not bipartisan, at least open to the possibility of supporting Democrats.”

—Rudy - An Investigative
Biography of Rudolph Giuliani,
Wayne Barrett, Page 459

Rudy Giuliani’s October 1994 Endorsement of Democratic Governor Mario Cuomo:

“From my point of view as the mayor of New York City, the question that I have to ask is, ‘Who has the best chance in the next four years of successfully fighting for our interest? Who understands them, and who will make the best case for it?’ Our future, our destiny is not a matter of chance. It’s a matter of choice. My choice is Mario Cuomo.”

—Rudy Giuliani: Emperor of the City
Andrew Kirtzman, Page 133

Reaction to Giuliani Endorsement of Cuomo:

“Once again, Rudolph Giuliani has demonstrated that liberalism is the foundation of his political philosophy. While Giuliani sold a bill of goods to trusting Republicans and Reagan Democrats that he had abandoned his roots as a McGovern Democrat, in his endorsement of Mario Cuomo, Mr. Liberal himself, he has shown his true colors. Giuliani’s argument that Cuomo will be better for the city has a hollow ring to it. Perhaps Rudy wants a governor who will sign over a blank check to constantly bail out the city from its fiscal problems. Giuliani knows, as do all New Yorkers, that Cuomo’s liberal policies have been an economic disaster for our city and state.”

“But Rudy doesn’t care. He has proven he will do anything to stop the election of a conservative Republican - but he won’t succeed.”

—Michael Long, Chairman N.Y.S. Conservative
Party Press Statement, October 25, 1994

“[Quite] frankly, you have to understand the fact that Rudy Giuliani was a McGovern Democrat, he was endorsed by the Liberal Party when he ran for Mayor. In his heart, he’s a Democrat. He’s paraded all over this country with Bill Clinton and, in fact, he’s very comfortable with Mario Cuomo. But what Rudy Giuliani wants is to be bailed out in the city, in the mess he’s in, and everybody understands very clearly in politics that they struck a deal, that Mario’s going to continue to be the big spender, save Rudy the options of raising taxes by pouring money statewide into the City of New York and bailing it out. Quite frankly, I predict that he will join the Democratic Party.”

—Interview with Michael Long, Chairman N.Y.S.
Conservative Party,
CNN Crossfire, October 25, 1994

On Gay Domestic-Partner Rights:

National Republicans can lump it if they don’t like his new domestic-partners bill, Mayor Giuliani said yesterday.

“I really haven’t thought about what the impact is on Republican politics or national politics or Democratic politics,” Giuliani said.

The bill he submitted to the City Council would extend the benefits city agencies must grant to gay and lesbian couples.

“I’m proud of it,” Giuliani said of the bill. “I think it puts New York City ahead of other places in the country.”

—New York Daily News, May 13, 1998

On Gay-Rights\Gay Rights Bill:

Giuliani favors extended civil-rights protection for gays and lesbians. Giuliani urged, by letter, to the New York Senate Majority Leader to pass the state’s first ever gay rights bill, but did it privately.

“I am writing to convey my support for the current legislation to prohibit discrimination against gays and lesbians, and to urge you to allow the bill onto the floor of the Senate for prompt action.”

“...It is my belief that we can penalize discrimination [against gays] without creating any potentially objectionable special privileges or preferential treatment.”

—New York Post, June 5, 1993

Now Rudy Giuliani has jumped on the bandwagon, pressing the state Republican Party to release a gay-rights bill to the Senate floor for a vote. Marching in Sunday’s [Gay Pride] parade, he has enlisted in the struggle to destroy the family. What a perfectly abominable springboard to seek high political office.

—Ray Kerrison
New York Post, June 30, 1993

Giuliani said homosexuality is “good and normal.”

—Ray Kerrison
New York Post, July 7, 1989

On Gay Domestic Partnership:

“I have no objection to the concept of domestic partnership.”

—Rudy Giuliani
Informed Sources
New York T.V. Show (PBS), May, 1992

On Abortion:

Leaflets distributed by the Giuliani campaign .... said that he opposes restrictions to Federal Medicaid financing for abortions and opposes the Hyde Amendment, which is intended to deny support for that financing.

—New York Times, June 18, 1993

“I’d give my daughter the money for it [an abortion].”

“I never called for the overturning of Roe vs. Wade.”

—Rudy Giuliani
New York Newsday, September 1, 1989

As mayor, Rudy Giuliani will uphold a woman’s right of choice to have an abortion. Giuliani will fund all city programs which provide abortions to insure that no woman is deprived of her right due to an inability to pay. He will oppose reductions in state funding. He will oppose making abortion illegal.

—New York Times, August 4, 1989

On Partial Birth Abortion:

Mr. Giuliani has said that New York State law should not be changed to outlaw the procedure.

— New York Times, January 7, 1998

On School Choice:

“I wanted to know if he supports tuition tax credits and vouchers, which he doesn’t.”

—Sandra Feldman, President of N.Y.C.
Teacher’s Union, 1993

On Taxes:

[Giuliani] says ruling out a tax increase is “political pandering.”

—Newsday, August 31, 1989


82 posted on 04/11/2007 11:40:29 AM PDT by Spiff (Rudy Giuliani Quote (NY Post, 1996) "Most of Clinton's policies are very similar to most of mine.")
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To: veronica
A “life-long liberal” was handpicked by Ronald Reagan for an important job in his administration.

An important job in which Giuliani was, more or less, confined to doing the one thing that I have never seen him attacked for: fighting crime. An appointment to US Attorney is hardly a blanket endorsement.

83 posted on 04/11/2007 11:42:12 AM PDT by SeƱor Zorro ("The ability to speak does not make you intelligent"--Qui-Gon Jinn)
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To: veronica

By that logic, let’s make Jim Webb our nominee.


84 posted on 04/11/2007 11:45:23 AM PDT by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
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To: areafiftyone
Rudy is an enemy to conservatism and this is a conservative website.

Just what did you expect? You are promoting the enemy.

So where does that leave you?

85 posted on 04/11/2007 11:46:07 AM PDT by Manic_Episode (Some mornings, it's just not worth chewing through the leather straps...)
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To: Spiff
Great post, thanks for the ping.

Better the second time around.

86 posted on 04/11/2007 11:47:11 AM PDT by Reagan Man (FUHGETTABOUTIT Rudy....... Conservatives don't vote for liberals!)
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To: JMack; Spiff
“I’m anti-Pataki, Anti-Rudy, and since Forbes endorsed Rudy, I’m against him as well.”

Don’t worry, It didn’t take Rooty long to diss Forbes again.

http://thepoliticker.observer.com/2007/04/giuliani-on-flat-tax-just-kidding.html#comments

Giuliani on Flat Tax: Just Kidding

Rudy Giuliani, fresh off winning the endorsement of Steve Forbes, now says he was just kidding when he said he thought the flat tax was a good idea.

“I didn’t favor it, I said something academic,” Giuliani said at a press conference in Florida on Saturday, in response to a reporter asking him why he had switched from opposing a flat tax to favoring it. “What I said was, and it was not a joke, but it was half-jocular, was if we didn’t have an income tax...what would I favor?

“First I would favor no tax,” he said laughing and turning to his wife Judith, who duly smiled back. “That would be my first position. My second position would probably be a flat tax.”

But, he said, the tax “would probably not be feasible.”

Someone should tell Forbes.

87 posted on 04/11/2007 11:56:55 AM PDT by Beagle8U (FreeRepublic -- One stop shopping ....... Its the Conservative Super Walmart for news .)
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To: noname07718
Well, see, I'm not particularly for Rudy in any way, shape or form. Not yet, at least. I simply find the energy expended to post all these "anti-everyone but your candidate" threads to be a bit silly, at best. It is straight from the leftist playbook. I'd much rather see why I should vote for candidate X instead of why candidate Y was a playground bully in 1964, and once pulled the wings off a fly that we're certain was conservative.

After all, the last perfect candidate was nailed to a cross, and I'm fairly certain that isn't the career goal of anyone running in 2008.

88 posted on 04/11/2007 12:10:57 PM PDT by Jokelahoma (Animal testing is a bad idea. They get all nervous and give wrong answers.)
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
“By that logic, let’s make Jim Webb our nominee.”

Believe me, there are some FReepers here who would do just that! Some here actually voted for him and helped to get him elected. I imagine these are the same people who are supporting Rudy as well.

89 posted on 04/11/2007 12:29:38 PM PDT by dmw (Aren't you glad you use common sense, don't you wish everybody did?)
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To: Spiff
Nice job Spiff! Love the disclaimer for the rudybot disrupter's :>)
90 posted on 04/11/2007 12:38:59 PM PDT by beltfed308 (Rudy: When you absolutely,positively need a liberal for President.)
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To: Jokelahoma
“I simply find the energy expended to post all these “anti-everyone but your candidate” threads to be a bit silly, at best. “

And yet here you are wasting time (and energy) on these silly threads. No one’s forcing you to be on these threads--are they? Didn’t think so.

91 posted on 04/11/2007 12:40:36 PM PDT by dmw (Aren't you glad you use common sense, don't you wish everybody did?)
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To: Spiff

bookmarked (as if I needed another reason)


92 posted on 04/11/2007 12:45:40 PM PDT by TigersEye (For Democrats; victory in Iraq is not an option!)
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To: dmw
Nor is anyone restricting my ability to point and laugh at things I find silly. The need to mock something so innately mockable is akin to the need to slow down and gawk at car wrecks. We know we shouldn't, but it's somewhat beyond our control. Entertainment is where you find it.
93 posted on 04/11/2007 12:48:17 PM PDT by Jokelahoma (Animal testing is a bad idea. They get all nervous and give wrong answers.)
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To: Beagle8U

flip flop flip flop......ad infinitum


94 posted on 04/11/2007 12:48:31 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! Or Rudy/Hillary if you want to murder conservatism)
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To: CharlesWayneCT
Rudy was put in a non-partisan position in the Reagan administration, one of law enforcement.

Non-partisan meaning his politics weren't relevant to that job? Understood.

95 posted on 04/11/2007 12:49:34 PM PDT by TigersEye (For Democrats; victory in Iraq is not an option!)
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To: JMack
There is no need to focus on McCain. McCain is toast.

Free Republic Opinion Poll:
Would you be for or against McCain?
Member Opinion
against 92.4% 2,989
for 7.6% 247

96 posted on 04/11/2007 12:54:06 PM PDT by TigersEye (For Democrats; victory in Iraq is not an option!)
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard

Webb left the GOP and ran as a Democrat.


97 posted on 04/11/2007 1:57:49 PM PDT by veronica
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To: veronica

While Rudy left the GOP and ran as a Republican anyway.


98 posted on 04/11/2007 2:00:31 PM PDT by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
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To: noname07718; mkjessup; Spiff

Huh. In the incident with the Muslim terrorist in 1997, didn’t Rudy use that as an opportunity to enforce more gun control measures?


99 posted on 04/11/2007 2:35:19 PM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007 (Why vote for Duncan Hunter in 2008? Look at my profile.)
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To: Spiff

Excellent post, Spiff.


100 posted on 04/11/2007 2:39:20 PM PDT by jla
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