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First They Came for Imus (Fairness Doctrine Days)
4/15/07 | Self

Posted on 04/15/2007 5:28:23 AM PDT by Nextrush

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To: JLGALT

Thus the Golden Rule trumps the First Amendment. He who has the gold makes the rules.


21 posted on 04/15/2007 6:42:46 AM PDT by don-o (Fight, fight. fight to drive the GOP to the right!!!!)
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To: nativist

Some of the Defeatocrats are openly pushing for “Fairness”; to them that means shutting down conservative speech.

If I were Rush, I’d be very, very, careful. The ONLY way the libs can elect Hillary is if Rush, Hannity, and Savage are off the air.


22 posted on 04/15/2007 6:50:09 AM PDT by kjo
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To: kjo
Right now its not an issue, yet. Keep the Dems out of the Whitehouse though or if they win the Whitehouse, knock them out of Congress.Of course I would like to hear the Supreme Court rule on the fairness doctrine.
23 posted on 04/15/2007 6:54:30 AM PDT by nativist (Islam: an excuse to kill someone you don't like.)
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To: Nextrush
I think the Imus blowup was the 2007 equivalent of the question that stopped McCarthyism, “Have you no decency, sir?”. When it becomes popular in urban music to call women ‘hoes’, meaning prostitutes, then there is an aspect of liberalism (an ideology that holds itself out as protecting women and minorities), that thinks it is not such a bad thing to allow some women to be demeaned in that way.

Social conservatives have been asking the popular liberal culture, in various ways and in various venues for a long, long time, have you no decency. The liberal culture has reacted by castigating conservatives as only wanting to “impose” values on society or wanting to destroy free speech.

Imus has the right to say what he did. In doing so, he must take responsibility for society finally waking up to what a horrible thing he really said. Thankfully this has provoked society into a self-examination of the consistency and values that were being expressed and these values have (finally) been shown to be lacking in the very values that the left thinks are theirs alone to protect and advance.

The Fairness Doctrine is disconnected from the Imus Hoe Flap. The Left counts Iums as one of its own. If he is allowed to come back, or if a replacement for him is found, that person will be allowed to say the same things that Imus has been saying for years, except this one area will now be off limits. The Fairness Doctrine is not aimed at the Left, it is aimed at every other voice on talk radio.

Happily, we now have the internet, and internet radio. We also have internet streaming media being delivered to cell phones, which are like the portable transistor radios of the 60’s generation. Increasingly, with ever expansion of the internet in wireless forms, it will be easier and easier for alternatives to Big Broadcast Networks and the gatekeepers who have stationed themselves on that media, to spring up.

Like Matt Drudge, who started off with a cheap PC and a dialup connection, anyone with very simple equipment and an almost-free connection to the net can produce his own program of commentary or news and make it available to web sites and forums that would be receptive to it. There is nothing that anyone who doesn’t like it will be able to do to stop that person.

Let free speech bloom, and screw the self-appointed gatekeepers.

24 posted on 04/15/2007 7:10:42 AM PDT by theBuckwheat
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To: JLGALT

The corporations (big advertisers, media owners) are buckling to liberalism for whatever reasons (liberal board members, executives) and the conservatives will need to challenge corporate liberalism sooner or later.


25 posted on 04/15/2007 7:13:43 AM PDT by Nextrush ( Chris Matthews Band: "I get high....I get high.....I get high.....McCain......")
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To: Nextrush

if a democrap wins the 2008 election

an attack on the fairness doctrine is a given.

i hear too many women that i know that watch oprah and rosie

saying that “rush limbaugh and ann coulter shouldn’t be saying

those things”.


26 posted on 04/15/2007 7:14:28 AM PDT by ken21 (it takes a village to brainwash your child + to steal your property! /s)
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To: Nextrush

Imus isn’t being censored any more than are the Dixie Chicks. He’s free to say what he wants, and his audience is free to turn the channel. His employers are free to call him on the carpet, or even make a show of firing him, if they fear enough people are turning the station.

Its business.

I don’t listen to Dixie Chick songs when they come on the radio, and the radio station knows it, so they don’t play them. I stopped lisening to Imus years ago after he went off on Christians one day (if you don’t like what I’m saying, he said, turn the station, and I did, permanently).

What he said in this case was over the line, and I’m not surprised there are consequences, not legal ones, but business ones, you can’t stay in business if your listeners don’t listen and your advertisers don’t want to be associated with you. Thats not censorship, though. Its the reason producers have to think twice before using Sean Penn in one of their movies, since there are any number of people who won’t buy the ticket if he’s in it.

That is nothing to do with Fairness Doctrine, though. You are right, though, in observing that getting rid of Limbaugh is priority one for the Dems, from the moment they retake the White House. Had Clinton had a few more months in office before, they would have taken Limbaugh out, and they will stop at nothing until he is gone, should they win big in 2008. You can count on it. That has nothing to do with Imus, though. If Imus were going down over “Fairness”, I’d defend him. He’s going down because he used racial epithets that would get my kids a bar of soap in the mouth if they used them. I have no patience for anyone who talks like that, period. Its not censorship, though, its called turning the station.


27 posted on 04/15/2007 7:18:18 AM PDT by marron
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To: nativist

That is what is happening. Everyone was silent when the came for Jimmy the Greek. And it has escalated ever since.


28 posted on 04/15/2007 7:24:37 AM PDT by apocalypto
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To: AmericanMade1776
"... But he stepped on someones toes, and he got busted....."

He stepped on someone's toes, alright, but it wasn't a basketball team.

Somewhere in the night, a smile comes across the face of She Who Must Not be Named (aka "Satan", according to Imus).

29 posted on 04/15/2007 7:26:58 AM PDT by Victor (If an expert says it can't be done, get another expert." -David Ben-Gurion, the first Prime Minister)
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To: AmericanMade1776

But not the freedom of speech to say that 9-11 was a judgment of God against America. I wasn’t aware of FR at that time, what was the consensus of the members here when Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell said God had judged America? Is there an archive?


30 posted on 04/15/2007 7:37:49 AM PDT by huldah1776 (Worthy is the Lamb.)
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To: AmericanMade1776

I don’t care for Al Sharpton
You don’t CARE for him ,that’s it ? He’s the biggest con man fraud street punk going . Do you have a clue who him and Jackson really are ?


31 posted on 04/15/2007 7:42:56 AM PDT by sonic109
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To: marron

You are wrong . Imus was a political hit job. Blacks say 100 times worse about whites on the radio all day long and stupid whites laugh it off. Sharpton is a pupper for Klinton , anyone in NY City knows that . She is promising him a BIG position if he slides the black vote over to her . Imus tore her apart on the radio every day ..Don’t be so naive .


32 posted on 04/15/2007 7:46:57 AM PDT by sonic109
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To: Nextrush

bookmark


33 posted on 04/15/2007 8:29:52 AM PDT by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/Ron_Paul_2008.htm)
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To: sonic109
You are wrong . Imus was a political hit job. Blacks say 100 times worse about whites on the radio all day long and stupid whites laugh it off. Sharpton is a pupper for Klinton , anyone in NY City knows that . She is promising him a BIG position if he slides the black vote over to her . Imus tore her apart on the radio every day ..Don’t be so naive .

There is actually a Soros funded group, the Media Watchdog (I think it's name is) that has a paid person to monitor each right wing talk show and contact the right rabble rousers when a slip-up is made. This was way more than simple public outcry. It was manufactured.

34 posted on 04/15/2007 8:39:36 AM PDT by Red Boots
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To: Red Boots

Media Matters is the group . Don’t doubt Klinton’s part in all this my friend .


35 posted on 04/15/2007 8:40:42 AM PDT by sonic109
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To: Nextrush

The bottom line is that Imus’ ratings were so miniscule that he wasn’t worth saving. Howard Stern can get away with saying outrageous things, because he has the listeners.


36 posted on 04/15/2007 8:49:00 AM PDT by dfwgator (The University of Florida - Still Championship U)
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To: Nextrush
It actually dates back to the Truman-FDR days but as you can see the liberals used it to effectively attack enemies who criticized them in the 60’s and 70’s.

In 1954 then Senator Johnson authored it.

37 posted on 04/15/2007 9:06:49 AM PDT by Always Right
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To: Nextrush

This Imus garbage is about dumping Rush and Savage and re-instituting government control of the content of radio and TV broadcasts, sometimes known as the “Fairness Doctrine”


38 posted on 04/15/2007 9:13:04 AM PDT by Leftism is Mentally Deranged (Free Speech: a fairy tale about something that existed in the USA a long time ago)
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To: Nextrush

Cogent and to the point. Also, absolutely right. Well written.


39 posted on 04/15/2007 9:16:19 AM PDT by LibKill ("RUDY GIULIANI" is just "HILLARY CLINTON" misspelled and wearing a dress.)
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To: Nextrush

Dr. McIntire married his secretary of 40+ years at the age of 92, he died four years later of old age. His first wife,
Fairey, died years before.


40 posted on 04/15/2007 9:20:53 AM PDT by OregonRancher
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