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Ex-generals: Global warming threatens U.S. security
CNN.Com ^ | April 15, 2007 | AP

Posted on 04/15/2007 6:00:56 PM PDT by RDTF

WASHINGTON (AP) -- Global warming poses a "serious threat to America's national security" and the U.S. likely will be dragged into fights over water and other shortages, top retired military leaders warn in a new report.

The report says that in the next 30 to 40 years there will be wars over water, increased hunger instability from worsening disease and rising sea levels and global warming-induced refugees. "The chaos that results can be an incubator of civil strife, genocide and the growth of terrorism," the 35-page report predicts.

"Climate change exacerbates already unstable situations," former U.S. Army chief of staff Gordon Sullivan told Associated Press Radio. "Everybody needs to start paying attention to what's going on. I don't think this is a particularly hard sell in the Pentagon. ... We're paying attention to what those security implications are."

Gen. Anthony "Tony" Zinni, President Bush's former Middle East envoy, says in the report: "It's not hard to make the connection between climate change and instability, or climate change and terrorism."

The report was issued by the Alexandria, Virginia-based, national security think-tank The CNA Corporation and was written by six retired admirals and five retired generals. They warn of a future of rampant disease, water shortages and flooding that will make already dicey areas -- such as the Middle East, Asia and Africa -- even worse.

"Weakened and failing governments, with an already thin margin for survival, foster the conditions for internal conflicts, extremism and movement toward increased authoritarianism and radical ideologies," the report says. "The U.S. will be drawn more frequently into these situations."

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1 posted on 04/15/2007 6:01:04 PM PDT by RDTF
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To: RDTF

Oh, geez!


2 posted on 04/15/2007 6:02:35 PM PDT by dfwgator (The University of Florida - Still Championship U)
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To: RDTF

Uh huh. Just like the over-population problem was supposed to create a catastrophe in the 1980s... gotcha.


3 posted on 04/15/2007 6:03:08 PM PDT by A_perfect_lady
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To: RDTF

It’s not hard to draw the correlation between climate change and terrorism???
OK, well maybe I’m just dense.
Please, Sir, feel free to elaborate and enlighten.

Anyone else wonder if Zinni is getting a tad senile?


4 posted on 04/15/2007 6:04:54 PM PDT by BlueNgold (Feed the Tree .....)
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To: BlueNgold

Oh how the retired military bigwigs long to remain relevant, even at the expense of riding a loser like Gore’s coat tails.

Pathetic showing, really.


5 posted on 04/15/2007 6:08:28 PM PDT by RightOnline
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To: RDTF
"We will pay for this one way or another," writes Zinni, former commander of U.S. Central Command. "We will pay to reduce greenhouse gas emissions today, and we'll have to take an economic hit of some kind. Or we will pay the price later in military terms. And that will involve human lives. There will be a human toll."

No wonder Al Qaeda and the Taliban took over Afghanistan and were launching attacks against us on this clowns watch. Zinni is a dolt, marine or no marine.

6 posted on 04/15/2007 6:12:17 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: RDTF
Global warming poses a "serious threat to America's national security" and the U.S. likely will be dragged into fights over water and other shortages, top retired military leaders warn in a new report.

The warmer the general climate, the greater the rate of water evaporation from the ocean. This would invariably lead to more rain worldwide and a wetter climate. I learned this basic principle in elementary school.
7 posted on 04/15/2007 6:12:33 PM PDT by kinoxi
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To: RDTF
“Booga! Booga!” (Dances around a fire.)
“Global Warming! We all gonna die!”
(Throws a powder on the fire. It flares up!)
(Falls on ground, screams like Dean and starts shaking)
“Bush’s Fault! Bush’s Fault! Bush’s Fault! Bush’s Fault!”

Announcer: Please give generously to ‘The Slap Sense Into Global Warming Worshipers Fund.” Poor pathetic victims like this will benefit from out expert weightlifters who will beat some common sense back into these losers.
Please help the SSIGWWF.

8 posted on 04/15/2007 6:12:52 PM PDT by Cyclops08
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To: RDTF

Yeah, the world should really miss our generation...not!


9 posted on 04/15/2007 6:13:14 PM PDT by familyop (Essayons (has-been))
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To: A_perfect_lady

The sky is falling, the sky is falling....


10 posted on 04/15/2007 6:14:33 PM PDT by Northern Yankee (Freedom Needs A Soldier)
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To: RDTF

Old soldiers never die – they just get recycled of CNN. Of the thousands of retired generals, is nice to know that only a couple of them are idiots.


11 posted on 04/15/2007 6:16:39 PM PDT by Dale 1
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To: RightOnline

Generals are not complete people.
Their purpose is to obey the dictates of the people and to direct our young men properly in protecting the Republic.

As they age, they become as useless as modern poets.


12 posted on 04/15/2007 6:17:17 PM PDT by the final gentleman
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To: RDTF

Sullivan served as Army Chief of Staff from June 1991 to June 1995.

Gordon R. Sullivan was born September 25, 1937 in Boston, Massachusetts and raised in Quincy. He was commissioned a second lieutenant of Armor and awarded a Bachelor of Arts degree in history from Norwich University in 1959. He holds a Master of Arts degree in political science from the University of New Hampshire. His professional military education includes the U.S. Army Armor School Basic and Advanced Courses, the Command and General Staff College, and the Army War College.

13 posted on 04/15/2007 6:17:25 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: RDTF

Yes, AuntToenie Zeenie, it’ll probably be 200 degrees in Eye-taly next year. That’s just terrible, but we should be so vain as to believe that we’re doing the sun’s job. Don’t blame mankind. Blame your sun-god.


14 posted on 04/15/2007 6:17:31 PM PDT by familyop (Essayons (has-been))
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To: RDTF

Oh, Goody! I can’t WAIT until California, Nevada, Arizona, New Mexico...and most likely Mexico band together and threaten Wisconsin, Michigan, Ohio and Canada with Civil War over us not “sharing” our water from The Great Lakes. *Rolleyes*

Who are these washed up “generals” again? ;)


15 posted on 04/15/2007 6:17:51 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: RDTF

This is Scrappleface, right?

Right?


16 posted on 04/15/2007 6:21:33 PM PDT by rlmorel (Liberals: If the Truth would help them, they would use it.)
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To: BlueNgold; All
OK, well maybe I’m just dense.

Nope! Zinni’s statement was thoroughly bizarre.

(More comments here.)

17 posted on 04/15/2007 6:21:50 PM PDT by dighton
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

LOL! We’re in perpetual draught (not)! The cattle of the movie stars are dying (not again)! ...more “emergency” funding, please!


18 posted on 04/15/2007 6:22:25 PM PDT by familyop (Essayons (has-been))
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To: kinoxi
The warmer the general climate, the greater the rate of water evaporation from the ocean. This would invariably lead to more rain worldwide and a wetter climate. I learned this basic principle in elementary school.

Algore didn't go to elementary school.

He invented elementary school.

19 posted on 04/15/2007 6:22:43 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: kcvl

“Sullivan served as Army Chief of Staff from June 1991 to June 1995.”

OMG! His only job was to make sure there were donuts and coffee a-plenty for “Visiting Dignitaries” and that the Flag was raised and lowered at the proper time each day (and you know HIS “Chief to the Chief” was really in charge of all of that anyway, LOL!)

What a pinhead. (And I’m Retired Army.)


20 posted on 04/15/2007 6:22:59 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: RDTF

Zinni is a raving, complete idiot. And has been for well over a decade.


21 posted on 04/15/2007 6:23:48 PM PDT by Rokke
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To: Northern Yankee

Military Advisory Board

* General Gordon R. Sullivan, USA (Ret.)
* Admiral Frank “Skip” Bowman, USN (Ret.)
* Lieutenant General Lawrence P. Farrell Jr., USAF (Ret.)
* Vice Admiral Paul G. Gaffney II, USN (Ret.)
* General Paul J. Kern, USA (Ret.)
* Admiral T. Joseph Lopez, USN (Ret.)
* Admiral Donald L. “Don” Pilling, USN (Ret.)
* Admiral Joseph W. Prueher, USN (Ret.)
* Vice Admiral Richard H. Truly, USN (Ret.)
* General Charles F. “Chuck” Wald, USAF (Ret.)
* General Anthony C. “Tony” Zinni, USMC (Ret.)

http://www.cna.org/about/staff/


22 posted on 04/15/2007 6:24:39 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: RDTF

How come all the self-appointed “experts” in Global Warming are EX-military, or EX-political, EXperts?

True climatologists do not agree with this Chicken Little chickenstuff, but they are being ignored.

Point One: The climate of Earth varies. We are still recovering from the last ice age.

Point Two: Earth reaches a balance between energy input and outgo. The so-called “Global Temperature” depends on that, but nothing that feeds into the equation is a constant. The sun is increasing in output, the atmosphere changes daily, and man’s effect on the whole is swamped by the actions of insects.

Point Three: Anyone with an iota of faith in the wisdom and benevolence of providence will see this as an upstart apoSTATE religion, and reject the rejection of the Creator.

Point Four: Even if the premise were anything but flawed, the proposed solutions will do NOTHING to ameliorate any effects. All proposed suggestions or demands actually make matters worse, not better.

Point Five: If a scientific action needed to be taken, it would most likely have to occur in space, not on Earth.

Point Six: The most effective thing to do on Earth immediately is to pull out all the stops to building nuclear energy electrical generators as quickly as possible, but that, like real climate science, is totally ignored.


23 posted on 04/15/2007 6:25:46 PM PDT by NicknamedBob (I know where I have gone wrong, and I can cite it, chapter and verse.)
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To: RDTF

Headline: RETIRED GENERALS THREATEN U.S. SECURITY


24 posted on 04/15/2007 6:28:22 PM PDT by Minutemen ("It's a Religion of Peace")
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To: rlmorel

unfortunately not


25 posted on 04/15/2007 6:30:24 PM PDT by RDTF (They should have put down Barbarella instead of Barbaro)
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To: RDTF
former U.S. Army chief of staff Gordon Sullivan

I wonder what percent of the time this guy spent leading troops into battle vs. sitting behind a desk at the Pentagon pushing papers around...
26 posted on 04/15/2007 6:30:39 PM PDT by Signalman
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To: RDTF

LOL, that scrappleface goes too far!


27 posted on 04/15/2007 6:31:44 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: RDTF
Are we Americans or Europeans? It's a decision that each of us should make, IMO.

Payvand's Iran News ...
8/6/03
Huge recovery in Iran's exports to EU
"The increase in Iranian exports was dominated by the rise in EU oil imports to eur 1.5 bn. It was led by Italy, Iran's biggest market, whose imports grew by eur 130 m to eur 500 m."

IRAN: ITALY MUST RELY ON TEHRAN TO BOOST ROLE IN MIDDLE EAST, DIPLOMAT ["Main trading partner."]
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1690564/posts
28 posted on 04/15/2007 6:31:46 PM PDT by familyop (Essayons (has-been))
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To: the final gentleman; RightOnline; RDTF
"As they age, they become as useless as modern poets."

HEY!

Global Warming

We’ve all been here before.
Too bad we don’t remember,
When succulent fruits were plentiful,
In northern lands of December.

They fear the sunlight; this I fear,
It’s not the warmth they dread,
But knowledge of a blessed Earth,
And people safely led.

The sanctuary of the heights,
And firmaments of faith,
Compel them to seek out the depths,
In shadows with their wraith.

Their efforts to sweep back the tide,
Will work, they sore believe it.
That wickedness gets washed away,
Their pride can not conceive it.

If we would only follow them,
They promise our salvation,
In downward spirals they propose,
But Hell is that direction.

NicknamedBob . . . February 27, 2007

29 posted on 04/15/2007 6:32:30 PM PDT by NicknamedBob (I know where I have gone wrong, and I can cite it, chapter and verse.)
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To: RDTF
wars over water

How much water do we import according to OMB?

30 posted on 04/15/2007 6:33:18 PM PDT by Ieatfrijoles (Incinerate Riyadh Now.(Request shot splash))
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To: RDTF
Gen. Anthony "Tony" Zinni, President Bush's former Middle East envoy, says in the report: "It's not hard to make the connection between climate change and instability, or climate change and terrorism."

Javier Solona's mole inside the Administration speaks in line with the EU position. What a shock.

31 posted on 04/15/2007 6:34:51 PM PDT by montag813
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To: A_perfect_lady

Seems like these same doomsayers were complaining about “ozone depletion” about ten or fifteen years ago. Weren’t we all supposed to be dead by now because of this?


32 posted on 04/15/2007 6:35:32 PM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner ("Si vis pacem para bellum")
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To: RDTF
If you want to know where these liberal scumbags at CNA are coming from, check this out. (Note: Ms. Sherri W. Goodman, now "General Counsel" for CNA, was Clinton's Deputy Under Secretary of Defense.) :

Environmental Security Ms. Carol Browner, EPA Administrator DoD Environmental Protection Agency Awards Ceremony Thursday, 25 September 1997 - 2 p.m.

33 posted on 04/15/2007 6:44:29 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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Old generals never die. They just become climate experts.


34 posted on 04/15/2007 6:48:17 PM PDT by webboy45
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

What I find insteresting, and I would like to know the circumstances about his Combat Infantry Badge. That is an INFANTRY award, not armor. I’m sure its authorized otherwise it wouldn’t be on his chest, I hope.


35 posted on 04/15/2007 6:51:56 PM PDT by SFC Chromey (We are at war with Islamofascists, now ACT LIKE IT!)
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To: potlatch; Lancey Howard

36 posted on 04/15/2007 6:58:40 PM PDT by devolve ( ........upload images free & fast at tinypic.com or Photobucket or Imagecave)
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To: devolve

He’s having a “Heat Wave”, he certainly can -’Cann Cann’!!

[don’t know how to spell that!]


37 posted on 04/15/2007 7:02:29 PM PDT by potlatch
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To: RDTF

I guess that’s why they are “Ex” generals.


38 posted on 04/15/2007 7:05:28 PM PDT by Perdogg (Cheney-Bolton 2008)
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To: RDTF
"Climate change exacerbates already unstable situations," former U.S. Army chief of staff Gordon Sullivan told Associated Press Radio.

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"That was perfect Gordo. I think the AP actually believes that bull$hit was original thought. Next time give 'em the website address..www.chickenlittle.org."

39 posted on 04/15/2007 7:19:10 PM PDT by bikerMD (Beware, the light at the end of the tunnel may be a muzzle flash.)
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To: RDTF

It’s at the point where CNN could, if they wanted, produce retired generals to inform us that nationalized health care and a cabinet-level Department of Peace are now national-security priorities.


40 posted on 04/15/2007 7:22:38 PM PDT by denydenydeny ("We have always been, we are, and I hope that we always shall be detested in France"--Wellington)
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To: SFC Chromey

It’s not the first to be seen on a tanker. I knew a major from the 11th ACR who had one from Vietnam.


41 posted on 04/15/2007 7:26:03 PM PDT by MadJack ("Patience is bitter, but its fruit is sweet." (Afghan proverb))
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To: potlatch

Well - SoS Condi decided she is the PC Czar now and slammed Imus

So ex Generals figure they can all be global warming pimps for algore


42 posted on 04/15/2007 7:27:44 PM PDT by devolve ( ........upload images free & fast at tinypic.com or Photobucket or Imagecave)
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To: RDTF

Gee, these guys have an opinion on everything, don’t they?


43 posted on 04/15/2007 7:29:55 PM PDT by AmishDude (It doesn't matter whom you vote for. It matters who takes office.)
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To: devolve

Yes, that’s something Condi should have never opened her mouth about. Possibly Imus’s racial words struck a cord with her.

Lol, I guess the ex Generals think they are important enough that we want to hear their thoughts. /not!


44 posted on 04/15/2007 7:32:47 PM PDT by potlatch
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To: kcvl
He holds a Master of Arts degree in political science

I might have known. Maybe the Army can be fooled, but academia, at least, put him in his proper place. Political science isn't.

45 posted on 04/15/2007 7:34:01 PM PDT by AmishDude (It doesn't matter whom you vote for. It matters who takes office.)
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To: jwalsh07

“We will pay to reduce greenhouse gas emissions today, and we’ll have to take an economic hit of some kind. Or we will pay the price later in military terms.”

What was Zinni doing commenting on greenhouse gas, for gosh sakes? He was in charge of CENTCOM and I’m sure not one of their PowePoint slides didn’t include HUMVEE and B2 emissions. But then again, not a whole lot of action took place to hunt down Osama during Clinton’s reign so maybe this fact was part of the reduced emission strategy.


46 posted on 04/15/2007 7:42:26 PM PDT by Tulsa Ramjet ("If not now, when?" "Because it's judgment that defeats us.")
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To: potlatch

A big mouth about something unrelated to your official area is the sign of an amateur with a huge ego

Untrustworthy

GW’s adminstration has been lousy with people doing that - often counter to Bush’s policies

Slick Willie had the MSM to cover him and Hillary and his staffers and Cabinet

But Slick Willie also would actually bury anyone who strayed from him

Anyone who strayed from FDR ended up in a hot combat zone

One was Eleanor’s riding instructor.....


47 posted on 04/15/2007 7:50:58 PM PDT by devolve ( ........upload images free & fast at tinypic.com or Photobucket or Imagecave)
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To: kcvl

I’ll wager they didn’t read Crichton’s “State of Fear”.

A Great book and a Fun read!


48 posted on 04/15/2007 7:54:05 PM PDT by PizzaDriver (an heinleinian/libertarian)
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To: kcvl

I’ll wager they didn’t read Crichton’s “State of Fear”.

A Great book and a Fun read!


49 posted on 04/15/2007 7:54:09 PM PDT by PizzaDriver (an heinleinian/libertarian)
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To: devolve

Yes, you’re right.
AND you always know too much, lol, amazes me how you remember it all!

At least FDR didn’t send Eleanor off!


50 posted on 04/15/2007 7:56:07 PM PDT by potlatch
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