Posted on 04/16/2007 7:14:16 AM PDT by LexHoskin
Gunman on Campus; Stay inside your building, away from windows; Shooting incident at West Ambler Johnston Hall
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Archive this before the timeline is lost....
http://www.homelandsecurityus.com/
VA Tech: “The worst campus shooting in US history”
Submitted by admin on Mon, 2007-04-16 16:23. U.S. News
Source: suspect might have made bomb threats to Virginia Tech Engineering building last week.
16 April 2006: A male in his 20’s, apparently of Asian origin who opened fire at Virginia Tech is confirmed dead in Blacksburg, Virginia. Fatalities appear to be at least 30, perhaps more. The motive under investigation.
The Northeast Intelligence Network is following this incident closely.
Shooting Timeline
Monday, April 16th 2007 12:23PM: Virginia Tech police have confirmed 22 fatalities resulting from the campus shootings today. The gunman has also been confirmed dead.
Three people were escorted out of Norris Hall by police. The three were handcuffed, separated, questioned, unhandcuffed and then canine teams were sent into Norris Hall said junior computer engineer Nick Saunders who watched the events unfold from the the second floor of Randolph Hall.
According to the university, classes have been cancelled for Tuesday, April 17.
11:57AM: Three people were escorted out of Norris Hall in handcuffs by police. The three were then unhandcuffed and canine teams were sent into Norris Hall.
11:50AM: The Associated Press has reported at least one death and seven injuries stemming from two shooting incidents on the Virginia Tech campus. Police have taken one person into custody and continue to search for another as part of routine procedure.
11:36AM: At this time, University Relations is reporting one individual in custody and is searching for a second shooter. The Collegiate Times will publish information as it is made available.
10:36AM: Due to serious wind helicopters cannot be used to transfer the injured. According to the police scanner, ambulances are being used to transport the victims to Montgomery Regional Hospital.
10:32AM: At this time, one death and one injury have been confirmed. More information will be made available as it breaks.
10:20AM: All classes are canceled.
10:04AM: The university is encouraging everyone to stay indoors and away from windows. West Ambler Johnston and Squires are currently on confirmed lock down.
10:00AM: A gunman is confirmed loose on campus.
Monday, April 16th 2007 9:47AM: Shots were fired on campus in West Ambler Johnson Hall in the early morning hours.
Courtesy VA Collegiate Times
I will repeat my reply to another “no holds barred” poster:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1818131/posts?page=1306#1306
Ping #77.
If the shooter really did kill himself then I’m inclined to agree. An Islamic terrorist would want to be killed (to be a martyr and all that crap). Then again, the 9/11 hijacker’s killed themselves, but they kind of had to.
You might pray about upping your schedule a year or 3.
God be with you Bro.
placemark
Thank you for the update, VirginiaMom.
ping to 1272— EXCELLENT INFORMATION.
You're claiming that civilian CCW would have prevented this. That's almost certainly not true, at least in the first classroom. Weapons would have been in backpacks, not in easy reach, and the shooter would have the advantage of surprise as well.
CCW may have prevented him from moving on to a second room -- but that presumes that the armed students had some idea of how to respond. Otherwise -- if they're just barricaded and waiting -- the guy still has the advantage of surprise.
Not to mention the likelihood of "friendly fire" fatalities, caused by armed students firing over the heads of their classmates.
As for "proper police tactics," well .... how are the police supposed to respond to something like this, where the shootings would have taken much less time than required for the cops to arrive?
Exactly.
I hope you hear soon about your friend's daughter.
prayers for all involved.
Thanks VirginiaMom.
I was in the vicinity of the North Hollywood shoutout. Same routine, stage the medics where it’s safe and bring the patients to them until you’re sure the scene is secure.
What would be odd about that, if that’s the way it happened, is there should of been allot of police on site an hour after the first shooting, not to mention the press. And would the students be going about their normal routine, or would they still be in lock-down mode with the shooter still not in custody? Something sounds fishy about the angry boyfriend rumor.
However, I refer to an ideology which has exclusively pushed forward an agenda which is grounded and fueled in violence against non muslims.
My statement stands.
Islam = violence
Seriously, for the good of your health, stay away from Yahoo! Forums.
And way too many victims. Unless that is the shooter was very mentally ill.
One or the two, he was very sick individual, girlfriend scenario or not, or this was terrorism.
This thread does concern politics geneous. Those students were left defenseless, because of gun grabbing clowns like Giuliani and his supporters.
May God comfort all who mourn, heal the wounded..both in body and in spirit
Prayers for those who are concerned about someone they know or love.
30 rounders have been around for a long, long, long time. They’re commonly available but not commonly purchased. Most of them are *much* longer than the gun they go in, so they’re not very popular. Generally speaking, they are not considered practical for carry usage, so they are limited to range use and, in the case of the police and foreign countries, use in fully-automatic machine pistol variants that are carried openly anyway.
I agree that not all students have the maturity to be carrying. I would hope that the process would prevent them from obtaining a permit. Not everyone that wants a permit gets one.
Semper Fi
But if this is an attack, there would be more incidents if it was coordinated with Al Q. or something like it.
We shall see. All we can do now is pray.
We are all praying for the victims..the injured and the families.
I am sure there are a lot of fearful people right now..not knowing how to deal with it...but, not wanting it to happen again.
I DO understand your concerns about having students with guns...I think it is something we just aren’t used to.
You are doing terrific.
A Pakistani national enrolled in the University of Missouri - Rolla (Engineering School) made a bomb threat about 3 months ago. His friends and family say he was upset over his grades. Last I heard he was going to be deported but his friends and family are trying to keep him here.
Deport, deport, deport....
Thanks for post # 1246...
William Morva was the homeless creep who killed a cop near the campus of VA Tech last year.
Did they say his name?
Person w/ asian name arrested for bombmaking at V Tech last summer. Just putting it out there in case anyone sees a connection.
I thought that was pretty obvious.
Hey, if you don't like to see threads hijacked, don't post to FR.
My description was overly basic but would have kept most people alive. Traditionally it is airway, breathing, circulation (heart pumping as well as stopping bleeding). Assuming the person has an open airway, is breathing, and their heart is pumping, they can last quite a while even with major trauma.
you’re not doing anything about it.
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i REALLY HATE it when FREEPERS lie about me—especially out of ignorance.
The assertion above is extremely far from the truth.
GRRRR
Just got a message on my cellphone from one of my doctor clients who just took over a private hospital in Roanoke Va..
He was notifying me of a referral. When I called his home number, I asked his son if he was treating anybody from the Virginian Tech shooting.
He told me yes, he's treating three right now.
I can’t look at the hate on other websites. That is the problem with our country. HATE HATE HATE. We need to be brought to our knees in a time of healing. I see the left wackos who are so full of hate and just tell myself they are blinded by truth. Our country needs healing. This is a random act of killings, but we have all sat back and let this type of hate fester. I just can see my God with tears dripping from his eyes with the direction our nation has chosen to go down.
They hired a PC president at VT several years ago. Turned out she was a lesbian and she took the job on the condition that her “partner” would be hired as an instructor, or something like that. There was such an outcry when that was revealed that she had to leave (the instructor). Not sure if I have all my facts right, but my mom lives in Roanoke and it was carried in the papers. I don’t know if this woman is still president or not. What VT needs is leadership. Real leadership.
..Al Qaeda you would have seen simultaneous attacks across multiple universities
SHEESH !....Is that what happened at Breslan?????
Do you not think this event today has not sruck fear in universities across the nation?
Have heard that this guy had some "military" training. This wasn't just a guy upset about a break up.
Boy are you in for a flaming, noob.
Pakistan is a Muslim country, and is referred to as Asian.....
In england “asian” usually refers to people from the Subcontinent (India, pakistan, Bangladesh, Sri lanka). Many, but far from all, are Muslims. Middle Easterners might also be called Asians, but in England their numbers are far, far smaller than people coming from India and (old East and West)Pakistan.
Ping to 1246
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This thread is political.
A resident assistant went to intervene when it got loud and the perp shot both the girl and the RA. Suspect then went to his first class and shot everyone in there
The rest of the world refers to the japanese, koreans and chinese as "orientals". That term became offensive for some reason here in the states.
Most of their time is spent unlocking cars with the keys inside. They do a great job. (Personal experience here.)
I’m just speculating here, but to give the VTI people the benefit of the doubt, it is actually possible to reload one empty gun while holding another (ready) gun in your other hand. It is terribly slow, but it does have the advantage of being able to hold the unarmed at bay while you do it.
I don’t have a complete, detailed list. Only what is stored in memory. The Seattle synagogue shooting, the student who blew himself up outside a football game at OU, the Salt Lake City Mall shooting and the UNC muslim who drove his SUV into a group of students. Just random acts that could be the result of what is now known as sudden jihad syndrome. We’ll have to wait and see on this one. Somehow I doubt it’s all about a girlfriend.
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