Posted on 04/16/2007 7:14:16 AM PDT by LexHoskin
Gunman on Campus; Stay inside your building, away from windows; Shooting incident at West Ambler Johnston Hall
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ping to 1461
This guy killed 32 and wounded many others. He was VERY skilled and/or very heavily armed.
<< This seems way too calculated to be the result of a lovers’ quarrel >>
If the girlfriend info is correct, then I’ll bet we’ll find that at the 7:15 shooting, the guy was NOT armed at that time with two weapons, a vest with multiple clips, lock and chains, etc. He got into an argument with his girlfriend, had a pistol on him and then shot her and the RA.
Then he left, and was not thereafter identified or stopped by anyone. He went back to his apartment. Having committed a double murder, the loser figured that if he was going down for a capital crime he would take a lot of other people with him, and that’s when he loaded up with weapons and ammo and chains and went back on campus two hours later and shot many people.
The authorities should have locked down the campus until the perpetrator of the first incident was in custody or they knew he wasn’t loose on campus.
And such things are hard to coordinate over the type of cell network that A.Q. uses. Especially since we have hollowed out that network lately.
2:20 p.m.
One man was hanging out the window of a Norris Hall classroom when the gunman entered, according to freshman Douglas Cobb.
Cobb said that Jake Grohs, the resident assistant for the fourth floor of Peddrew-Yates residence hall, told him he climbed out the window of an engineering class as the gunman apparently made his way from room to room in Norris.
“He was in the room next door to the shooting” and decided to try climbing out the second-story window, Cobb said. “He was hanging out the window when the person came in” and heard people being shot, Cobb said. He said that four of six people who were in the room at that time where shot.
Grohs jumped out the window onto a hill and is OK, Cobb said.
Cobb and other friends showed up at the Inn at Virginia Tech this afternoon to try to get information about a missing friend.
http://www.roanoke.com/news/nrv/breaking/wb/113294
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You raise a most excellent point.
Yes, it’s different. But he could still have taken an idea and applied it to his own situation. If so, then he’d probably been planning this awhile.
I doubt they would be running the suspect on an open frequency like that...especially once all the state police and reinforcements showed up. They all love to talk on their Nextel’s
Could be wrong though....during the Burbank shooting here they named the suspects name over the air, saying the D/L was found in the slain officers hand.
You just joined today and that is your only post at FR? So who is the ‘plant’? Just wondering.
I was speculating on that too...post 1463
Another possibility: that the phony bomb threats called in over the last weeks were done so to get a heightened police presence on the campus, to make today's victims more hesitant about carrying for their protection without benefit of official permission.
2 Bomb Threats at VA Tech Last Week
Before Today's Massacre, Virginia Tech Received 2 Separate Bomb Threats
By JAN CRAWFORD GREENBURG
April 16, 2007 — - There have been two separate bomb threats in the past two weeks at Virginia Tech that targeted engineering buildings.
The first, in early April, was directed at Torgersen Hall, which is an engineering building. The second, at the end of last week, was directed at multiple engineering buildings.
Students and staff were evacuated, and the university had offered a $5,000 reward for information into the threats.
4th person account here but a friend of a friend of mine has a brother who is a state trooper just north of Blacksburg and he has said that it was a disgruntled boyfriend. No additional info on how killing her turned into killing 30 more people then himself.
Take it for what it’s worth...
could it be that maybe he had planned this event knowing that he would die (either by police or himself) and went to see his girlfriend for the last time and somehow it came out during the convo what he was planning and she tried to talk him out of it causing an argument...
I am cursed with dial-up that is carried on barbed wire to the rural wasteland. Can you re-cap?
I am cursed with dial-up that is carried on barbed wire to the rural wasteland. Can you re-cap?
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thanks for your thoughtful post, it is just so hard to imagine
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