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Ishmael's Axe
http://external.oneonta.edu/cooper/articles/suny/2001suny-pikus.html ^

Posted on 04/17/2007 11:25:47 AM PDT by TexasBud

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To: lugsoul

See post 16 - Moby Dick (Chapter 17) ties is to Ramadan


21 posted on 04/17/2007 11:37:13 AM PDT by VRWCTexan (History has a long memory - but still repeats itself)
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To: TexasBud

Is this him????

http://flickr.com/photos/eldarossell/203788467/


22 posted on 04/17/2007 11:38:38 AM PDT by aCDNinUSA
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To: TexasBud
Shah Ismail made shia the official religion if Iran in 1502. Could be Iran, not Al-Qaeda that may have poisoned his mind..

Or he could have just been nuts...

23 posted on 04/17/2007 11:39:54 AM PDT by clilly54
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To: aCDNinUSA

Nice find.


24 posted on 04/17/2007 11:39:56 AM PDT by chaos_5
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To: faq
If he was an English major, why would he spell Ishmael as Ismail?

Well, it doesn't mean his tattoo artist majored in English.

25 posted on 04/17/2007 11:39:58 AM PDT by HawaiianGecko (Mosquitoes remind us that we are not as high up on the food chain as we think...)
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To: MIchaelTArchangel
Ah, so it’s Bush’s fault?

Yes. You see, ABC just reported that the killer's long suicide noted included the phrase, "You caused this." Clearly the "you" refers to George W. Bush. He should step down immediately.

/s

26 posted on 04/17/2007 11:40:12 AM PDT by alnick
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To: SE Mom
I’m just shaking my head at the unbelievable speculation going on .. It’s hard enough to grasp the enormity of what happened yesterday. I’m not above falling into the trap of looking for an evil islamic extremist behind every awful event, yet this seems to be a helluva stretch.

Neither am I. I think this kid had major problems - stalking the girl etc. Planning this for about a month, Long note left behind. Seriously planned to kill that girl for quite a while and blamed the whole thing on her.

27 posted on 04/17/2007 11:40:19 AM PDT by areafiftyone
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To: TexasBud
I've read The Prairie and remember the character Ishmael, but don't remember the part about the axe. I'm probably also the only student in my English department who has read this book. At one time, Cooper's books would probably have been recommended reading, but they aren't anymore. Especially if the program is at all PC. If I thought it was a literary reference, I would think it more likely to be Moby Dick. But personally, I think it's too early to tell.
28 posted on 04/17/2007 11:40:42 AM PDT by twigs
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To: TexasBud
That the gunman used the arabic spelling must mean something...

Yup...

29 posted on 04/17/2007 11:40:52 AM PDT by johnny7 ("Issue in Doubt." -Col. David Monroe Shoup, USMC 1943)
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To: aCDNinUSA

Looks like the other photos of the perp


30 posted on 04/17/2007 11:40:55 AM PDT by VRWCTexan (History has a long memory - but still repeats itself)
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To: aCDNinUSA

Nice FIND!!!!


31 posted on 04/17/2007 11:41:12 AM PDT by ScreamingFist (Annihilation - The result of underestimating your enemies. NRA)
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To: mnehrling
Cheat notes written on his arm for an upcoming test?

He also signed his suicide note with the phrase.

32 posted on 04/17/2007 11:41:39 AM PDT by alnick
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To: aCDNinUSA

The photo was taken by “Eldarossell” who appears to be Indonesian? I think this is the killer?

“He’s a South Korean. Ismail is not his real name. He use it because his name is very hard to pronounce, especially for Indonesian people. His real name is Cho Seung Hoo ....... or is it Jo Sung Ho?”

Link:
http://flickr.com/photos/eldarossell/203788467/


33 posted on 04/17/2007 11:42:03 AM PDT by aCDNinUSA
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To: oceanview

A play he wrote is posted at the Smoking Gun - the description was sick enough; I didn’t want to see any more.


34 posted on 04/17/2007 11:42:11 AM PDT by NoBullZone
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To: TexasBud
Ishmael (Hebrew: יִשְׁמָעֵאל, Arabic: إسماعيل, Ismā'īl; translates as "God will hear" (Strong's Dictionary)) was Abraham's eldest son, born by his wife's handmaiden Hagar. Though being born of Hagar, according to the Mesopotamian law, he was credited to Sarah (Gn. 16:2)[1] According to the Genesis account, he died at the age of 137 (Gn. 25:17).

Judaism has generally viewed Ishmael as wicked though repentant.[1] Islamic tradition, however, has a very positive view of Ishmael, ascribing a larger role to Ishmael in comparison to the Bible and viewing him as a prophet and the son of sacrifice (according to certain early theologians whose ideas prevailed later).[1][2] The Bahá'í writings consider him a lesser prophet.

Both Jewish and Islamic traditions consider Ishmael as the ancestor of Arab people.[1]

35 posted on 04/17/2007 11:42:56 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets ("We will have peace with the Arabs when they love their children more than they hate us.")
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To: MIchaelTArchangel

Yep. We sorta knew that...


36 posted on 04/17/2007 11:43:12 AM PDT by null and void (To Marines, male bonding happens in Boot Camp, to Democrats, it happens at a Gay Pride parade...)
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To: alnick
From what I’ve heard recently, that was misreported. Comments on what was on his arm and the note got bungled together..
37 posted on 04/17/2007 11:43:27 AM PDT by mnehring (McCain '08 -------------------------------------- just kidding...)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

Credit: Wikipedia


38 posted on 04/17/2007 11:44:14 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets ("We will have peace with the Arabs when they love their children more than they hate us.")
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To: TexasBud

We’ll have to “ax” him in the future........


39 posted on 04/17/2007 11:44:22 AM PDT by Red Badger (If it's consensus, it's not science. If it's science, there's no need for consensus......)
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To: faq

“If he was an English major, why would he spell Ishmael as Ismail?”

Because that is the muslim spelling?


40 posted on 04/17/2007 11:44:47 AM PDT by MeanWestTexan (Kol Hakavod Fred Thompson)
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