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Jihad: The Men and Ideas Behind Al Qaeda (Koran Cho Seung-Hui could he be a recruit?)
PBS/Drudge ^ | April 15, 2007

Posted on 04/17/2007 11:25:48 AM PDT by restornu

Killer's Note: 'You Caused Me to Do This'

What this Koran Cho Seung-Hui said, sounds like he could have been recruited to do the the Jihadist bidding?

There was a documentry on a PBS station Sunday on "Osama Ben Layden" and what was in the suicide note sounds simular as mention in the PBS Doc.

It was reported OBL read a book by Sayyid Qutb

"Qutb was extremely critical of many things in the United States: its racism, materialism, individual freedom, economic system, poor haircuts,[7] triviality, restrictions on divorce, enthusiasm for sports, "animal-like" mixing of the sexes (which went on even in churches),[8] and lack of support for the Palestinian struggle. In an article published in Egypt after his travels, he noted with disapproval the sexuality of Americans:

the American girl is well acquainted with her body's seductive capacity. She knows it lies in the face, and in expressive eyes, and thirsty lips. She knows seductiveness lies in the round breasts, the full buttocks, and in the shapely thighs, sleek legs — and she shows all this and does not hide it. [9] And their taste in music :

In the week-long America at a Crossroads series debuting on PBS April 15, here’s what stayed with Current editors Originally published in Current, April 9, 2007

Jihad: The Men and Ideas Behind Al Qaeda Sunday, April 15, 9 p.m.

The doc’s historical primer introduces Sayyid Qutb, an influential 20th century Egyptian ideologue who called for Islamic revolution; surveys al-Zawahiri’s time in prison; and reports on his and bin Laden’s experiences fighting and recruiting in Afghanistan and the Sudan.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: choseunghui; drudge; jihad; obl; pbs; sayyidqutb
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1 posted on 04/17/2007 11:25:53 AM PDT by restornu
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To: restornu

I would not discount the possibility.


2 posted on 04/17/2007 11:29:18 AM PDT by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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To: restornu

Ishmael’s Axe?


3 posted on 04/17/2007 11:30:34 AM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: GOP_1900AD
"Ismail Ax" was written in red ink on his arm, and was the name used to sign his suicide note.

Doesn't sound very Korean to me.

4 posted on 04/17/2007 11:30:50 AM PDT by Jack Black
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To: restornu
the American girl is well acquainted with her body's seductive capacity. She knows it lies in the face, and in expressive eyes, and thirsty lips. She knows seductiveness lies in the round breasts, the full buttocks, and in the shapely thighs, sleek legs — and she shows all this and does not hide it.

This bothers me too. ;-)

5 posted on 04/17/2007 11:31:00 AM PDT by glorgau
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To: restornu
"Call me Ishmael," is the first line from Moby Dick.
The first line of Chapter One ("Call me Ishmael.") is one of the most famous in American literature. Although the book initially received mostly negative reviews, Moby-Dick is now considered to be one of the greatest novels in the English language, and has secured Melville's reputation in the first rank of American writers.

6 posted on 04/17/2007 11:31:43 AM PDT by syriacus (Congress should debrief Pelosi as they would any US diplomat who met with a foreign leader.)
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To: Pyro7480

Ping.


7 posted on 04/17/2007 11:32:32 AM PDT by knews_hound (Sarcastically blogging since 2004.)
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To: restornu

In the title-is it supposed to be Korean but misspelled as Koran, or was it meant to be spelled that way?


8 posted on 04/17/2007 11:32:35 AM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: processing please hold

Hard to believe an English major would not know how to spell it properly.


9 posted on 04/17/2007 11:33:54 AM PDT by Borges
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To: processing please hold
In the title-is it supposed to be Korean but misspelled as Koran, or was it meant to be spelled that way?

That depends---are you part of the conspiracy?

10 posted on 04/17/2007 11:35:12 AM PDT by Wormwood (Future Former Freeper)
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To: Borges

Indeed.


11 posted on 04/17/2007 11:35:17 AM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: Jack Black

But the anagram of it -— “Islam Xai” -— does.

“Xai” is aoparently a Korean proper noun.


12 posted on 04/17/2007 11:35:40 AM PDT by MeanWestTexan (Kol Hakavod Fred Thompson)
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To: Borges

There’s also Fennimore-Cooper’s “Ishmael’s Ax” an Scandinavian poem with Ismail in it plus a book by DEN Southworth called “Ishmael” with an ax scene in it.

I go with the deranged English major myself.


13 posted on 04/17/2007 11:36:22 AM PDT by najida (Just call me a chicken rancher :))
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To: Borges

Spelled properly if Arabic.


14 posted on 04/17/2007 11:36:24 AM PDT by MeanWestTexan (Kol Hakavod Fred Thompson)
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To: processing please hold

Dang!

Sorry writing in not my forte “Connecting The Dots” I do better in!:)


15 posted on 04/17/2007 11:38:05 AM PDT by restornu (I know that thou art redeemed, because of the righteousness of thy Redeemer; 2 Ne 2:3)
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To: Wormwood
That depends---are you part of the conspiracy?

If you're asking me if I think it's a muslim connection...hell yes, I have from the git go.

16 posted on 04/17/2007 11:38:13 AM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: Wormwood

Holy crap,
and I was kidding about the Koran/Korean thing (sheesh, I take back my winky then!)


17 posted on 04/17/2007 11:39:22 AM PDT by najida (Just call me a chicken rancher :))
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To: restornu

:-)


18 posted on 04/17/2007 11:39:23 AM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: restornu
[the note said] "You caused me to do this," the sources told ABC News.

That's all these "sources" are giving up? Seeing the quote in context might clear things up considerably. ....for instance, who is the "you" he's referring to? Bush? Jews? Infidels the world over? Ishmael's whole damn unedited note better be released to the public, and quickly.

19 posted on 04/17/2007 11:41:27 AM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: najida

We’re through the looking glass here, people!


20 posted on 04/17/2007 11:42:07 AM PDT by Wormwood (Future Former Freeper)
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*for later*


21 posted on 04/17/2007 11:42:39 AM PDT by Max in Utah (WWBFD? "What Would Ben Franklin Do?")
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To: Wormwood

Mad as Hatters.


22 posted on 04/17/2007 11:43:02 AM PDT by najida (Just call me a chicken rancher :))
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To: Jack Black

An informative anecdote. I must admit to my fellow Freepers that in a few unguarded moments of romantic heartbreak and other frustrating instances, as a young man, I found the idea of conversion to Islam to be at least at the level of more than a brain fart. Thankfully, reality always took hold before it progressed beyond that. The appeal? Draconian rules for comportment between the sexes, discipline, etc. We see how it appealed and continues to appeal to urban African Americans. It is popular as well in the penal system. So, would it be too much to at least consider as possible, that a man like the shooter might have so succumbed?


23 posted on 04/17/2007 11:43:09 AM PDT by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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To: restornu

I do not expect the media to report that this was terror.

The same as they refuse to believe that the Eqypt Air disaster was a muslim terror activity. Even though many Generals were taken down with the flight and the pilot was a muslim who was praising God as he pushed the control into a downward spiral and was fighting people trying to remove him.

But noooo, that wasn’t a terror/muslim attack. Just like this won’t be either. Quote/unquote.


24 posted on 04/17/2007 11:43:53 AM PDT by Southerngl (TEAM BIRKHEAD Longstanding member of the FIRM)
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To: GOP_1900AD
God’s blessing on Hagar’s son, the first Arab. Ok, it’s more of a curse...

“Behold, you are with child, and shall bear a son; you shall call his name Ishmael; because The Lord has given heed to your affliction. He shall be a wild ass of a man, his hand against every man and every man’s hand against him; and he shall dwell over against all his kinsmen.” (Genesis 16:11-12)

25 posted on 04/17/2007 11:45:17 AM PDT by Dixie Yooper (Ephesians 6:11)
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To: najida

At this point, there’s nothing to do but to sit back and watch the show.


26 posted on 04/17/2007 11:45:55 AM PDT by Wormwood (Future Former Freeper)
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To: restornu

Sudden Jihad Syndrome


27 posted on 04/17/2007 11:46:16 AM PDT by pissant
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To: Southerngl

The same as they refuse to believe that the Eqypt Air disaster was a muslim terror activity. Even though many Generals were taken down with the flight and the pilot was a muslim who was praising God as he pushed the control into a downward spiral and was fighting people trying to remove him.
***

Pardon me, not the Eqypt Air being muslim, but TERROR. Terror can come from all sides.


28 posted on 04/17/2007 11:53:20 AM PDT by Southerngl (TEAM BIRKHEAD Longstanding member of the FIRM)
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To: Dixie Yooper

Oh my gosh


29 posted on 04/17/2007 12:00:05 PM PDT by sneakers
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To: Wormwood

Well,
It’s a nice way of cleaning up your Christmas Card list. Just keep track and mark them off as they post :)


30 posted on 04/17/2007 12:05:30 PM PDT by najida (Just call me a chicken rancher :))
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To: Wormwood

Well,
It’s a nice way of cleaning up your Christmas Card list. Just keep track and mark them off as they post :)


31 posted on 04/17/2007 12:05:53 PM PDT by najida (Just call me a chicken rancher :))
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To: sneakers
Oh my gosh

If you didn't already know about this, Have I got a great book for you to read!

32 posted on 04/17/2007 12:06:09 PM PDT by Dixie Yooper (Ephesians 6:11)
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To: Southerngl

AX
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A special forces group under the command of Cardinal Catherina in Trinity Blood
A shortening of “ask” in Ebonics.
A euphemism for layoffs.


33 posted on 04/17/2007 12:06:42 PM PDT by Jack Black
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To: pissant
CLICK

Virginia Killer's Violent Writings Play told of pedophilic stepfather, murder of 13-year-old boy

34 posted on 04/17/2007 12:07:31 PM PDT by restornu (I know that thou art redeemed, because of the righteousness of thy Redeemer; 2 Ne 2:3)
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To: restornu

Jim Webb’s protege?


35 posted on 04/17/2007 12:08:22 PM PDT by pissant
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To: glorgau
the American girl is well acquainted with her body's seductive capacity. She knows it lies in the face, and in expressive eyes, and thirsty lips. She knows seductiveness lies in the round breasts, the full buttocks, and in the shapely thighs, sleek legs — and she shows all this and does not hide it.
This bothers me too. ;-)


Same here. When it stops bothering me, I will be worried.

Or pushing up daisies. LOL
36 posted on 04/17/2007 12:10:14 PM PDT by mkjessup
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To: Mr. Mojo

Try this the Smoking Gun

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1818820/posts?page=34#34


37 posted on 04/17/2007 12:10:49 PM PDT by restornu (I know that thou art redeemed, because of the righteousness of thy Redeemer; 2 Ne 2:3)
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To: Jack Black
"Ismail Ax" was written in red ink on his arm, and was the name used to sign his suicide note. Doesn't sound very Korean to me.

Ismail is the Muslim spelling.
As in Ismail Haniyeh the present head of HAMAS. - tom

38 posted on 04/17/2007 12:13:52 PM PDT by Capt. Tom (Don't confuse the Bushies with the dumb Republicans - Capt. Tom)
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To: Southerngl

Don’t forget the recent incident in Utah, I think it was..


39 posted on 04/17/2007 12:17:21 PM PDT by ken5050
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To: mkjessup; glorgau; aculeus; Senator Bedfellow; Billthedrill; Larry Lucido; martin_fierro; ...

“... the American girl is well acquainted with her body's seductive capacity. She knows it lies in the face, and in expressive eyes, and thirsty lips. She knows seductiveness lies in the round breasts, the full buttocks, and in the shapely thighs, sleek legs — and she shows all this and does not hide it.”

“... for which the fires of Gehenna await her, because she will not give me the time of day.”

40 posted on 04/17/2007 12:31:09 PM PDT by dighton
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You are like Ibrahim! Sacrifice your Ismail. Put the knife to his throat with your hands...Save the throat of the people from being cut-the people are always sacrificed at the doors of palaces of power, and temples of torture. PUT THE BLADE AT YOUR SON’S THROAT SO THAT YOU MAY TAKE THE BLADE FROM THE EXECUTIONER’S HAND! But ... Allah will pay the ransom of your Ismail. You do not kill and do not lose your Ismail. THIS IS TO TEACH YOU THAT YOU SHOULD BE READY TO SACRIFICE YOUR ISMAIL (LOVE) IN YOUR OWN HANDS FOR THE SAKE OF YOUR FAITH!...”


41 posted on 04/17/2007 12:34:48 PM PDT by navysealdad
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To: dighton

It makes one wonder if Hillery got her idea for the title of her book... "It Takes A village To Raise A Child?"

FROM Qutb
In general, Qutb's experiences as an Egyptian - his village childhood, professional career, and activism in the Muslim Brotherhood - left an unmistakable mark on his theoretical and religious works.

Even Qutb's early, secular writing shows evidence of his later themes. For example, Qutb's autobiography of his childhood Tifl min al-Qarya (A Child From the Village) makes little mention of Islam or political theory and is typically classified as a secular, literary work.

However, it is replete with references to village mysticism, superstition, the Qur'an, and incidences of injustice. Qutb's later work developed along similar themes, dealing with Qur'anic exegesis, social justice, and political Islam.

42 posted on 04/17/2007 12:58:56 PM PDT by restornu (I know that thou art redeemed, because of the righteousness of thy Redeemer; 2 Ne 2:3)
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To: Jack Black
Ismail Ax

Sort of reminds you of Malcolm X?

43 posted on 04/17/2007 1:03:07 PM PDT by restornu (I know that thou art redeemed, because of the righteousness of thy Redeemer; 2 Ne 2:3)
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To: Capt. Tom

Thus, “Ishmael (Islam) the Ax?”


44 posted on 04/17/2007 1:21:46 PM PDT by Rutles4Ever (Ubi Petrus, ibi ecclesia, et ubi ecclesia vita eterna)
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To: processing please hold

I must admit, my initial reaction when this news first broke was that it was “sudden jihadi syndrome”...then when they kept saying the guy was Asian, I thought I must have over-reacted...now - some very strange things, Ismail X being a big one.

Also, “gun-free” zone lunacy is ridiculous - if concealed weapons had been allowed, this guy might have been taken out a lot earlier.


45 posted on 04/17/2007 1:24:27 PM PDT by KEmom (Please send viable Republican candidates to Massachusetts!!)
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To: Dixie Yooper

Thanks, I already have a bible - and yes I’ve read it. I just haven’t read Genesis in quite a long while, and forgot about that particular passage. It really does describe the muslims to a ‘t’. I’ve just hadn’t looked at it in the context of these days in which we are living.

So, again, I say “Oh my gosh!”.


46 posted on 04/17/2007 2:02:20 PM PDT by sneakers
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To: Rutles4Ever
We have to see his note and get what was actually written.

It's odd that a person who would have a name that is hard to pronounce by Americans, would use a Muslim name in it's place.

Remember the opeining lines of Moby Dick:
"Call me Ishmael. Some years ago - never mind how long precisely - having little or no money in my purse, ... -

It is not like he used Ishmael which is a Jewish , Christian spelling he used Ismail which is a Muslim spelling.

Might not be anything to it,but it should be checked out.

47 posted on 04/17/2007 2:03:59 PM PDT by Capt. Tom (Don't confuse the Bushies with the dumb Republicans - Capt. Tom)
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To: restornu
Several minor mistakes in Richard McBeef. Certainly, he was not up to par for an English major, I would think. It seems rather surprising that he would be sailing toward his degree. OTOH, perhaps feedback of such failings only tightened the screws he felt upon himself.

His short play shows very shallow understanding of relationships, time, and what people would actually say to one another (in a real world?). His writing is quite, quite disturbed, but we have real proof that now, don't we?

HF

48 posted on 04/17/2007 4:05:29 PM PDT by holden
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To: Capt. Tom; mkjessup; glorgau; aculeus; Senator Bedfellow; Billthedrill; Larry Lucido; ...
Remember the opeining lines of Moby Dick:

"Call me Ishmael. Some years ago - never mind how long precisely - having little or no money in my purse, ...

Opening line of The Vale of Laughter by Peter De Vries:

"Call me, Ishmael. Feel absolutely free to call me any hour of the day or night at the office or at home . . ."

49 posted on 04/17/2007 4:09:27 PM PDT by aculeus
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To: holden

It seem Smoking Gun did not share with us Cho other writings that were about I think negativity against his profesors an another groups!


50 posted on 04/17/2007 4:13:07 PM PDT by restornu (I know that thou art redeemed, because of the righteousness of thy Redeemer; 2 Ne 2:3)
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