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To: TampaDude
I already addressed this in the second part of my post, which you conveniently left out of your reply. Please go back and read it again and you’ll have my answer.

So let me understand...your definition of life, unlike the scientific definition, is based upon the current state of medical technology. So, according to your definition, would an unborn child at 26 months of development be considered a human life in America where sufficient medical technology is available to allow him or her to survive but not so much a human life in a third world country where such technology is not available? Would your legal definition of human life have to change every time younger and younger preemies survived outside of the womb?

749 posted on 04/18/2007 3:52:07 PM PDT by Spiff (Rudy Giuliani Quote (NY Post, 1996) "Most of Clinton's policies are very similar to most of mine.")
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To: Spiff
So let me understand...your definition of life, unlike the scientific definition, is based upon the current state of medical technology.

Not life...viability.

So, according to your definition, would an unborn child at 26 months of development be considered a human life in America where sufficient medical technology is available to allow him or her to survive but not so much a human life in a third world country where such technology is not available?

A human life? Yes. Viable outside the womb? No.

Would your legal definition of human life have to change every time younger and younger preemies survived outside of the womb?

Not the legal definition of "human life", but rather the legal definition of "viability", which gives "personhood" to that human life, along with all the associated legal rights.

Viability = Personhood = Rights

Non-viability = Not a person = No rights

Unless of course you believe humans have souls. I do not subscribe to that belief. It has no scientific basis and is nothing more than magical thinking.

758 posted on 04/18/2007 4:59:01 PM PDT by TampaDude (If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the PROBLEM!!!)
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To: Spiff; TampaDude
I get it now--at least, I see where you're going with the whole "...babies surviving at 22-weeks" crap. Viability. Another stupid, vague argument that those in favor of abortion love to trot out. You social liberals just thrive in the grey zone, dontcha? You can't see anything as black or white, right or wrong. A perfectly healthy baby delivered at 40 weeks isn't viable. Leave her to her own devices and she will be dead in three days. The viability argument also sanctions mercy killing of an enormous swath of people---the physically handicapped, the mentally handicapped--anyone who must rely on a fellow human being for their continued existence.

I know where you stand now, td--I actually want to thank you for admitting that you're a social liberal. I can get back to my life now.

883 posted on 04/19/2007 5:49:22 AM PDT by grellis (Femininist)
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