Gallup's Pulse of Democracy Election 2008 (New Poll)

Gallup ^ | 4/18/07

[areafiftyone]

(((RUDY PING)))))

[Man50D]

--The New York State Liberal Party on its endorsement of Rudy Giuliani for Mayor: "When the Liberal Party Policy Committee reviewed a list of key social issues of deep concern to progressive New Yorkers, we found that Rudy Giuliani agreed with the Liberal Party's stance on a majority of such issues. He agreed with the Liberal Party's views on affirmative action, gay rights, gun control, school prayer and tuition tax credits. As Mayor, Rudy Giuliani would uphold the Constitutional and legal rights to abortion." N.Y.S. Liberal Party Endorsement Statement of Candidate Giuliani for Mayor of New York City April 8, 1989

--On the Republican Party: "Mr. Rockefeller represented 'a tradition in the Republican Party' I've worked hard to re-kindle - the Rockefeller, Javits, Lefkowitz tradition." Rudy Giuliani told the New York Times July 9, 1992

--Village Voice Interview with Guiliani: He was asked: "What kind of Republican Is [Giuliani]? A Reagan Republican?" Giuliani pauses before answering: "I'm a Republican." Village Voice January 24, 1989

--On Attending 1996 Republican Convention: Rudy expressed his pleasure when he wasn't invited to the Republican National Convention in San Diego. "If I take three or four days off from city business, I want to do it for a substantive purpose. It didn't seem to me any substantive purpose could be served by going to the Republican convention." said Rudy. Rudy! An Investigative Biography of Rudolph Giuliani, Page 459, by Wayne Barrett

--On Barry Goldwater: Giuliani described John Kennedy as "great and brilliant. Barry Goldwater as an "incompetent, confused and sometimes idiotic man." New York Daily News, May 13, 1997 --On President Bill Clinton: Shortly before his last-minute endorsement of Bob Dole in the 1996 presidential election, Giuliani told the Post's Jack Newfield that "most of Clinton's policies are very similar to most of mine." Rudy! An Investigative Biography of Rudolph Giuliani, Wayne Barrett.

--The Daily News quoted Giuliani as saying March 1996: "Whether you talk about President Clinon, Senator Dole.... The country would be in very good hands in the hands of any of that group." An Investigative Biography of Rudolph Giuliani, Wayne Barrett.

What sounded pretty good to some, until Giuliani added last week during a CNN interview that he thinks a person who believes the Constitution should be interpreted as written could also vote to uphold Roe v. Wade and that he supports public financing of abortions for poor women who want them.Twisting himself even further, Giuliani said denying a poor woman tax dollars to pay for an abortion would deprive her of a "constitutional right."

---"Over the objections of a furious Mayor Giuliani and city legislators from both parties, the New York state legislature has abolished the New York City commuter tax. The action, done to apparently affect a local legislative race in suburban Rockland County, could cost New York City $360 million. NPR's Margot Adler reports."--- NPR Report

---"Let's face it: Rudy Giuliani argued for the reinstatement of the tax,..."--- NY Sun report [Giuliani] says ruling out a tax increase is "political pandering." Newsday, August 31, 1989

"When I ran for Mayor both times, I was asked very, very often to do the following: Pledge that you will never raise taxes. I refused to do that. Pledge that you will lower taxes. I refused to do that." -- Rudy Giuliani, New York Times, October 25, 1994

Mr. Giuliani criticized Mr. Pataki’s proposal to cut taxes as “a shell game” that would hurt everyone in the state… -- New York Times, October 30, 1994

[GEORGE] WILL: Is your support of partial birth abortion firm? Mayor GIULIANI: All of my positions are firm. I have strong viewpoints. I express them. And I--I do not think that it makes sense to be changing your position.... ABC News February 6, 2000

TUCHMAN: Giuliani was then asked whether he supports a ban on what critics call partial-birth abortions, something Bush strongly supports. GIULIANI: No, I have not supported that, and I don't see my position on that changing. - CNN December 2, 1999

BLITZER: If you were in the Senate and [President Clinton] vetoed, once again, the [ban on the] so-called partial-birth abortion procedure, you would vote against sustaining that against the -- in favor of the veto in other words, you would support the president on that. GIULIANI: Yes. I said then that I support him, so I have no reason to change my mind about it. BLITZER: All right. So the bottom line is that on a lot of these very sensitive issues whether on guns, abortion, patients' bill of rights, taxes, you are more in line with the president and by association, with Mrs. Clinton, than you are against them. - CNN February 6, 2000

MR. RUSSERT: A banning of late-term abortions, so-called partial-birth abortions--you're against that? MAYOR GIULIANI: I'm against it in New York, because in New York... MR. RUSSERT: Well, if you were a senator, would you vote with the president or against the president? [Note: President Clinton was in office in 2000] MAYOR GIULIANI: I would vote to preserve the option for women. I think that choice is a very difficult one. It's a very, very--it's one in which people of conscious have very, very different opinions. I think the better thing for America to do is to leave that choice to the woman, because it affects her probably more than anyone else.... MR. RUSSERT: So you won't change your view on late-term abortion in order to get the Conservative Party endorsement? MAYOR GIULIANI: It isn't just that. We shouldn't limit this to one issue. I'm generally not going to change my views - NBC Meet the Press, February 6, 2000

Giuliani/Clinton/Dem vs. GOP Platform Comparison
Issue	Giuliani	Clinton	Dem Platform	GOP Platform
Abortion on Demand	Supports	Supports	Supports	Opposes
Partial Birth Abortion	Supports Opposed NY ban	Supports	Supports	Opposes
Roe v. Wade	Supports	Supports	Supports	Opposes
Taxpayer Funded Abortions	Supports	Supports	Supports	Opposes
Embryonic Stem Cell Research	Supports	Supports	Supports	Opposes
Federal Marriage Amendment	Opposes	Opposes	Opposes Defined at state level	Supports
Gay Domestic Partnership/ Civil Unions	Supports	Supports	Supports	Opposes
Openly Gay Military	Supports	Supports	Supports	Opposes
Defense of Marriage Act	Opposes	Opposes	Opposes	Supports
Amnesty for Illegal Aliens	Supports	Supports	Supports	Opposes
Special Path to Citizenship for Illegal Aliens	Supports	Supports	Supports	Opposes
Tough Penalties for Employers of Illegal Aliens	Opposes	Opposes	Opposes	Supports
Sanctuary Cities/ Ignoring Immigration Law	Supports	Supports	Supports	Opposes
Protecting 2nd Amendment	Opposes	Opposes	Opposes Supports bans	Supports
Confiscating Guns	Supports Confiscated as mayor. Even bragged.	Supports	Supports Supports bans	Opposes
'Assault' Weapons Ban	Supports	Supports	Supports
Frivolous Lawsuits Against Gun Makers	Supports Filed One Himself	Supports		Opposes
Gun Registration/Licenses	Supports	Supports		Opposes
War in Afghanistan	Supports	Supports Voted for it	Supports	Supports
War in Iraq	Supports	Supports Voted for it	Supports Weak support	Supports
Patriot Act	Supports	Supports Voted for it 2001 & 2006	Opposes	Supports

Giuliani/Clinton/Dem vs. GOP Platform Comparison
Issue	Giuliani	Clinton	Dem Platform	GOP Platform
Abortion on Demand	Supports	Supports	Supports	Opposes
Partial Birth Abortion	Supports Opposed NY ban	Supports	Supports	Opposes
Roe v. Wade	Supports	Supports	Supports	Opposes
Taxpayer Funded Abortions	Supports	Supports	Supports	Opposes
Embryonic Stem Cell Research	Supports	Supports	Supports	Opposes
Federal Marriage Amendment	Opposes	Opposes	Opposes Defined at state level	Supports
Gay Domestic Partnership/ Civil Unions	Supports	Supports	Supports	Opposes
Openly Gay Military	Supports	Supports	Supports	Opposes
Defense of Marriage Act	Opposes	Opposes	Opposes	Supports
Amnesty for Illegal Aliens	Supports	Supports	Supports	Opposes
Special Path to Citizenship for Illegal Aliens	Supports	Supports	Supports	Opposes
Tough Penalties for Employers of Illegal Aliens	Opposes	Opposes	Opposes	Supports
Sanctuary Cities/ Ignoring Immigration Law	Supports	Supports	Supports	Opposes
Protecting 2nd Amendment	Opposes	Opposes	Opposes Supports bans	Supports
Confiscating Guns	Supports Confiscated as mayor. Even bragged.	Supports	Supports Supports bans	Opposes
'Assault' Weapons Ban	Supports	Supports	Supports
Frivolous Lawsuits Against Gun Makers	Supports Filed One Himself	Supports		Opposes
Gun Registration/Licenses	Supports	Supports		Opposes
War in Afghanistan	Supports	Supports Voted for it	Supports	Supports
War in Iraq	Supports	Supports Voted for it	Supports Weak support	Supports
Patriot Act	Supports	Supports Voted for it 2001 & 2006	Opposes	Supports

[areafiftyone]

Did you have to do that? I used up enough bandwidth with this poll that I couldn’t even post the whole thing. Why don’t you just discuss the poll?

[Bernard]

And here I was going to try a new game; in after the ping, and before the first Rudy hater. Too late!

Better luck next time.

[babygene]

Is Rudy male or female? Or both or neither?

Clearly he is liberal...

[areafiftyone]

You will never be able to - I think the best time was 26 seconds before a Rudy Hater came on. LOL!

[Gop1040]

You should really proofread it first. There’s a couple annoying typos in there. Other than that, it’s garbage.

[Bernard]

To be that quick, they must run two sessions with different ID’s on the screen and a name that is on your ping list. It is good to see that people have a hobby.

[Man50D]

Did you have to do that? I used up enough bandwidth with this poll that I couldn’t even post the whole thing. Why don’t you just discuss the poll?

It's a public forum. We both have the right to inform. There is no size limit per FR rules on posting a reply. You should direct your complaint to Jim Robinson. I'll be posting this information many more times in the future whenever there is a thread about socialist Giuliani.

Polls, especially this early are misleading at best. Some points about polls:

1. They poll a small percentage of a given population.

2. Pollsters can target a group of people pollsters know will respond in a specific way.

3. Questions can be structured to elicit a specific response.

4. Pollsters can disregard questions they deem undesirable and continue to ask the question until they get the desired response.

The majority of Republicans are unaware of Giuliani's positions on abortion, gun control, and same-sex marriage.

The list in post #4 will make some aware

[Ole Okie]

Why don’t you just discuss the poll?

My fingers get sore just from rolling past the same damn spam posted by a number of the Fredbots or Duncanbots.

A link to the spam would save my fingers from getting blisters.

[areafiftyone]

Well have fun spamming the same thing the others spam then. o originality. We've seen the chart since it's inception.

So if your guy (whomever that is) was #1 in the poll then this poll wouldn't mean a thing either? Since you say that these polls are misleading. I just wonder if you would say the same thing.

[areafiftyone]

Ahhh so That is how they do it. And I thought they just had a crush on me! ;-)

[hosepipe]

Democracy is now and always has been MOB Rule by mobsters..
Basically Tribal Law with creative tribes.. very primitive government..
Nothing democratic about it at all.. never was never will be..
Fully as democratic as any Mafia..

[Man50D]

So if your guy (whomever that is) was #1 in the poll then this poll wouldn't mean a thing either? Since you say that these polls are misleading. I just wonder if you would say the same thing.

Neither of you should assume I'm a "fredbot" or a "Duncanbot" especially since I haven't stated I favor any candidate this early. It would be foolish for any candidate or supporter to get lulled into a false sense of security by any favorable poll. That's a sure way to let your guard down and lose the primary or election.

[Peach]

I see the spamorama has not let up. And I had such high hopes :-)

[areafiftyone]

Oh I didn’t assume you were a Fred or Duncanbot. You could easily be a Romney or Brownback or even Ron Paul supporter - there are alot of them on FR. I just meant the candidate you prefer.

[areafiftyone]

LOL! Sorry to say nothing has changed Peach! Welcome to the Jungle! ;-)

[garv]

Here's the interesting things about this poll. Giuliani's numbers went down and he's stuck in the 30s. He is at essentially the same level of support as he had in January. Whatever momentum he had is gone.

The polls also shows that most Republicans still have no idea what Giuliani's positions on social issues are. Bad news for Rudy. Fully one-third of Republicans are unhappy with the current choices for president. Bad news for the big three. In the head to head with McCain, 10% of Giuliani's supporters believe McCain is "too moderate" reflecting the fact that they are unaware of Giuliani's positions.

The poll also shows that the overwhelming issue in the recent mid-terms was the Iraq war, putting the lie to all those who keep blaming social conservatives and advocating a more "moderate" (read liberal) posture by the GOP.

[Victoria Delsoul]

Great info, thanks.

Though McCain is doing a bit better, Rudy is still Numero Uno, LOL.