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‘I found Saddam’s WMD bunkers’
Melanie Phillips.com ^ | April 19, 2007 | Melanie Phillips

Posted on 04/19/2007 3:13:26 AM PDT by aculeus

Spectator, 20 April 2007. It’s a fair bet that you have never heard of a guy called Dave Gaubatz. It’s also a fair bet that you think the hunt for weapons of mass destruction in Iraq has found absolutely nothing, nada, zilch; and that therefore there never were any WMD programmes in Saddam’s Iraq to justify the war ostensibly waged to protect the world from Saddam’s use of nuclear, biological or chemical weapons.

Dave Gaubatz, however, says you could not be more wrong. Saddam’s WMD did exist. He should know because he found the sites where he is certain they were stored. And the reason you don’t know about this is that the American administration failed to act on his information, ‘lost’ his classified reports and is now doing everything it can to prevent disclosure of the terrible fact that, through its own incompetence, it allowed Saddam’s WMD to end up in the hands of the very terrorist states against whom it is so controversially at war.

You may be tempted to dismiss this as yet another dodgy claim from a warmongering lackey of the world Zionist neocon conspiracy giving credence to yet another crank pushing US propaganda. If so, perhaps you might pause before throwing this article at the cat. Mr Gaubatz is not some marginal figure. He’s pretty well as near to the horse’s mouth as you can get.

Having served for 12 years as an agent in the US Air Force’s Office of Special Investigations Mr Gaubatz, a trained Arabic-speaker, was hand-picked for postings in 2003, first in Saudi Arabia and then in Nasariyah in Iraq. His mission was to locate suspect WMD sites, discover threats against US forces in the area and find Saddam loyalists, and then send such intelligence to the Iraq Survey Group and other agencies.

Between March and July 2003, he says, he was taken to four sites in southern Iraq— two within Nasariyah, one 20 miles south and one near Basra — which, he was told by numerous Iraqi sources, contained biological and chemical weapons, material for a nuclear programme and UN-proscribed missiles. He was, he says, in no doubt whatever that this was true.

This was in the first place because of the massive size of these sites and the extreme lengths to which the Iraqis had gone to conceal them. Three of them were bunkers buried 20-30 feet beneath the Euphrates. They had been constructed through building dams which were removed after the huge subterranean vaults had been excavated so that these were concealed beneath the river bed. The bunker walls were made of reinforced concrete five feet thick.

‘There was no doubt, with so much effort having gone into hiding these constructions, that something very important was buried there’, says Mr Gaubatz. By speaking to a wide range of Iraqis, some of whom risked their lives by talking to him and whose accounts were provided in ignorance of each other, he built up a picture of the nuclear, chemical and biological materials they said were buried underground.

‘They explained in detail why WMDs were in these areas and asked the US to remove them’, says Mr Gaubatz. ‘Much of this material had been buried in the concrete bunkers and in the sewage pipe system. There were also missile imprints in the area and signs of chemical activity —gas masks, decontamination kits, atropine needles. The Iraqis and my team had no doubt at all that WMDs were hidden there’.

There was yet another significant piece of circumstantial corroboration. The medical records of Mr Gaubatz and his team showed that at these sites they had been exposed to high levels of radiation.

Mr Gaubatz verbally told the ISG of his findings, and asked them to come with heavy equipment to breach the concrete of the bunkers and uncover their sealed contents. But to his consternation, the ISG told him they didn’t have the manpower or equipment to do it and that it would be ‘unsafe’ to try.

‘The problem was that the ISG were concentrating their efforts in looking for WMD in northern Iraq and this was in the south’, says Mr Gaubatz. ‘They were just swept up by reports of WMD in so many different locations. But we told them if they didn’t excavate these sites, others would’.

That, he says, is precisely what happened. He subsequently learned from Iraqi, CIA and British intelligence that the WMD buried in the four sites were excavated by Iraqis and Syrians, with help from the Russians, and moved to Syria. The location in Syria of this material, he says, is also known to these intelligence agencies. The worst-case scenario has now come about. Saddam’s nuclear, biological and chemical material is in the hands of a rogue terrorist state — and one with close links to Iran.

When Mr Gaubatz returned to the US, he tried to bring all this to light. Two congressmen, Peter Hoekstra, Chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, and Curt Weldon, were keen to follow up his account. To his horror, however, when they tried to access his classified intelligence reports they were told that all 60 of them —which, in the routine way, he had sent in 2003 to the computer clearing-house at a US air base in Saudi Arabia —had mysteriously gone missing. These written reports had never even been seen by the ISG.

One theory is that they were inadvertently destroyed when the computer’s data base was accidentally erased in the subsequent US evacuation of the air base. Mr Gaubatz, however, suspects dirty work at the crossroads. It is unlikely, he says, that no copies were made of his intelligence. And he says that all attempts by Messrs Hoekstra and Weldon to extract information from the Defence Department and CIA have been relentlessly stonewalled.

In 2005, the CIA held a belated inquiry into the disappearance of this intelligence. Only then did its agents visit the sites — to report that they had indeed been looted.

Mr Gaubatz’s claims remain largely unpublicised. Last year, the New York Times dismissed him as one of a group of WMD diehard obsessives. The New York Sun produced a more balanced report, but after that the coverage died. According to Mr Gaubatz, the reason is a concerted effort by the US intelligence and political world to stifle such an explosive revelation of their own lethal incompetence.

After he and an Iraqi colleague spoke at last month’s Florida meeting of the Intelligence Summit, an annual conference of the intelligence world, they were interviewed for two hours by a US TV show — only for the interview to be junked after the FBI repeatedly rang Mr Gaubatz and his colleague to say they would stop the interview from being broadcast.

The problem the US authorities have is that they can’t dismiss Mr Gaubatz as a rogue agent — because they have repeatedly decorated him for his work in the field. In 2003, he received awards for his ‘courage and resolve in saving lives and being critical for information flow’. In 2001, he was decorated for being the ‘lead agent in a classified investigation, arguably the most sensitive counter-intelligence investigation currently in the entire Department of Defence’ and because his ‘reports were such high quality, many were published in the Air Force’s daily threat product for senior USAF leaders or re-transmitted at the national level to all security agencies in US government’.

The organiser of the Intelligence Summit, John Loftus — himself a formidably well-informed former attorney to the intelligence world —has now sent a memorandum to Congress asking it to investigate Mr Gaubatz’s claims. He has also hit a brick wall. The reason is not hard to grasp.

The Republicans won’t touch this because it would reveal the incompetence of the Bush administration in failing to neutralise the danger of Iraqi WMD . The Democrats won’t touch it because it would show President Bush was right to invade Iraq in the first place. It is an axis of embarrassment.

Mr Loftus goes further. Saddam’s nuclear research, scientists and equipment, he says, have all been relocated to Syria, where US satellite intelligence confirms that uranium centrifuges are now operating — in a country which is not supposed to have any nuclear programme. There is now a nuclear axis, he says, between Iran, Syria and North Korea — with Russia and China helping build an Islamic bomb against the west. And of course, with assistance from American negligence.

‘Apparently Saddam had the last laugh and donated his secret stockpile to benefit Iran’s nuclear weapons programme. With a little technical advice from Beijing, Syria is now enriching the uranium, Iran is making the missiles, North Korea is testing the warheads, and the White House is hiding its head in the sand.’

Of course we don’t know whether any of this is true. But given Dave Gaubatz’s testimony, shouldn’t someone be trying to find out? Or will we still be intoning ’there were no WMD in Iraq’ when the Islamic bomb goes off?


TOPICS: Extended News; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: clintonchronies; davegaubatzwmd; huntforwmd; iraq; johnloftus; melaniephillips; saddamswmd; shadowgovernment; suppressedreport; wmd
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To: aculeus

Thanks for posting this. Bookmarking for later. :)


81 posted on 04/19/2007 10:41:26 AM PDT by Chena (I want a President who will also be tough against liberalism. (Kevin McCullough))
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To: PISANO

When you gonna see Syrians attack American soldiers of the IDF with WMD’s, this story will come back.


82 posted on 04/19/2007 10:41:38 AM PDT by drzz
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To: BenLurkin

See here :

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1819894/posts


83 posted on 04/19/2007 10:49:47 AM PDT by drzz
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To: joseph20

I like that theory.

After the fall of the Soviet Union the country was financially broke including all the Warsaw States.

The Russian military sold military hardware to make ends meet to anyone who wanted it. What was sold in the blackmarket and to the Russian Mafia?

John Deutch, CIA Director
1996 Congressional Hearing

“Moreover, the Russian military, struggling to cope with numerous problems, is not likely to regain its former strength. All Russian services are experiencing cutbacks in manpower, training, resources, and readiness, and they are uncertain about their future organization and missions. Overall manpower has declined to well under its authorized 1.7 million and current military production is a fraction of what it was under Soviet power. Much needed reforms languish. The morale of Russian soldiers and junior officers is bad and getting worse.

We cannot forget, however, that Russia still possesses a formidable nuclear arsenal. Moscow maintains high levels of readiness throughout its strategic forces, and it continues modernization programs, including a follow on missile for the SS-25 ICBM. Political instability, weak civilian control over the military, economic deterioration, corruption, and a general pervasiveness of crime, raise concerns about the control, security, and accountability of the former Soviet nuclear arsenal.”

http://www.fas.org/irp/congress/1996_hr/index.html


84 posted on 04/19/2007 10:58:27 AM PDT by Milligan
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To: SoCal Pubbie

” met someone who appears frequently as a security expert on a major cable news channel.”

Who ? Miniter ?


85 posted on 04/19/2007 10:59:57 AM PDT by drzz
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To: aculeus

Given the title I knew the url wasn’t going to have letters like: nytimes, msnbc, newsweek, ap, washpost, usatoday, cbs, nbc, abc, pbs, npr, or latimes in it


86 posted on 04/19/2007 11:02:08 AM PDT by paltz
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To: paltz

it will have “limbaugh” url soon.


87 posted on 04/19/2007 11:04:56 AM PDT by drzz
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To: Milligan

Russian Mafia and al Queda

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m2242/is_1648_282/ai_102747651


88 posted on 04/19/2007 11:18:28 AM PDT by Milligan
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To: drzz
maybe...but it won't matter, because this story never made anybody's eye's blink 3 yrs ago:

No WMD Stockpiles in Iraq? Not Exactly

89 posted on 04/19/2007 11:37:58 AM PDT by paltz
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To: drzz

No, it was not Miniter, or any name you’d probably recognize. I do not know this person’s rank in the military, but I don’t think it was that high up, and that’s part of the reason I am skeptical of his stories. I really don’t want to give many more details here, but I will via Freepmail with people who have the experience in the field to really know something about the subject first hand. I was introduced to this person via a business referral that should have nothing to do with current politics, and I do not wish to bad mouth anyone while benefiting from their assistance.


90 posted on 04/19/2007 11:47:39 AM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: aculeus; ASA Vet
Bio-Chemical Weapons & Saddam: A History.
91 posted on 04/19/2007 1:39:42 PM PDT by PsyOp (Any dangerous spot is tenable if brave men will make it so. - John F. Kennedy.)
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To: Liberty Valance
Friggin' partisan politics will be the end of us yet.

This may explain why Weldon was completely (and wrongfully) discredited and "politically assassinated".

92 posted on 04/19/2007 6:52:55 PM PDT by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.....)
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To: aculeus

bookmark


93 posted on 04/19/2007 6:53:33 PM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the occupation media.)
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To: aculeus

If true, it is also entirely possible that the intelligence was acted upon as well and simply remains totally top secret.

It is all conjecture.

But I know one thing for sure...

We will hear about things that are going on today only many decades from now when they can be declassified, and we will probably be stunned at the actions this nation has taken against the evil ones and how sucessful they were.


94 posted on 04/19/2007 6:54:18 PM PDT by Names Ash Housewares
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To: JerseyJohn61

bookmark


95 posted on 04/19/2007 7:01:00 PM PDT by JerseyJohn61 (Better Late Than Never.......sometimes over lapping is worth the effort....)
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To: CharlesWayneCT
They had been constructed through building dams which were removed after the huge subterranean vaults had been excavated so that these were concealed beneath the river bed. The bunker walls were made of reinforced concrete five feet thick.

I smell BS as well.

96 posted on 04/19/2007 7:09:32 PM PDT by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestus globus, inflammare animos)
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To: aculeus

There are an awful lot of ‘05, ‘06 and ‘07 new members on this thread. I smell a disinformation effort.


97 posted on 04/19/2007 7:48:58 PM PDT by Rembrandt (We would have won Viet Nam w/o Dim interference.)
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To: aculeus

Had me interested until the part about Sadaam having the last laugh and giving the weapons to Iran. Really hard to believe. Really.


98 posted on 04/19/2007 7:58:24 PM PDT by ItisaReligionofPeace
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To: aculeus

“Bush lied” bump


99 posted on 04/19/2007 8:53:12 PM PDT by Dajjal
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