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Rudy's Welfare Plea (Fought to keep immigrants on welfare.)
New York Daily News (via LexisNexis) ^ | 03/21/1997 | Joel Siegel

Posted on 04/20/2007 1:40:10 PM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007

Mayor Giuliani took his advocacy for immigrants to Congress yesterday, trying to derail the planned August cut-off of federal welfare benefits to legal immigrants including more than 135,000 in New York City.

He said the abrupt end of food stamps and Supplemental Security Income payments would inflict severe and unfair hardships on legal immigrants and impose financial pain on cities like New York that will be forced to step in and help those who lose aid.

The cut-off was a key provision of the sweeping federal welfare reform approved last summer. Some immigrants will begin losing their benefits in June, with all benefits to be halted by Aug. 22.

"All of these people would [lose assistance] all at once, not phased in, not done in some kind of sensible way in which citizens and states could assess, 'How do we replace these benefits?' " Giuliani said.

The mayor said 135,000 legal immigrants receive SSI in the city, most of them elderly or disabled, and that 70,000 immigrants draw food stamps. He estimated it would cost the city nearly $ 400 million a year to keep the benefits.

In meetings with Senate Majority Leader Trent Lott (R-Miss.) and Sen. Alfonse D'Amato, Giuliani urged that such immigrants be "grandfathered" into the welfare system. That would mean the cut-off would apply only to immigrants who entered the U.S. after the bill was passed.

At a minimum, Giuliani urged Congress to delay the cut-off.

Sentiment in Congress has been strong in favor of keeping the cuts, and it was not clear whether Giuliani's lobbying would have major impact.

But the trip gave the reelection-seeking mayor another opportunity to highlight his advocacy for immigrants a role that has allowed Giuliani to soften his image and court U.S. newcomers who may provide crucial votes in November.

While in Washington, Giuliani delivered the keynote speech at the annual conference of the Staten Island-based Center for Migration Studies and picked up its 1997 award for immigration and refugee policy.

Immigrant-aid groups agreed with Giuliani that the cut-off date must be averted.

"Many of these people are in nursing homes. . . . Without SSI they would be thrown out into the cold," said Peter Fiumefreddo of the Bronx-based Federation or European American Rights.

But Ira Mehlman of the Federation for American Immigration Reform said Giuliani "talks about how great immigrants are for New York City, but then turns around and wants everybody else to pay the costs."


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Politics/Elections; US: New York
KEYWORDS: giuliani; immigrantlist; immigration; rudy; stoprudy2008
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Okay.

So Rudy had no problem not cutting welfare if it affected immigrants...and I have no doubt, considering his sanctuary city policy, that many of them might have been illegals.

1 posted on 04/20/2007 1:40:14 PM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007
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To: Spiff; narses; Liz; pissant; areafiftyone; veronica; dirtboy; dmw; indylindy; TommyDale; ...

“Rudy fought to keep welfare for immigrants” ping.

Were they illegals? You be the judge.


2 posted on 04/20/2007 1:41:23 PM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007 (Why vote for Duncan Hunter in 2008? Look at my profile.)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

>impose financial pain on cities like New York

There you go.


3 posted on 04/20/2007 1:41:34 PM PDT by AZRepublican ("The degree in which a measure is necessary can never be a test of the legal right to adopt it.")
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To: Ultra Sonic 007
Mayor Giuliani took his advocacy for immigrants to Congress yesterday, trying to derail the planned August cut-off of federal welfare benefits to legal immigrants including more than 135,000 in New York City.

Rudy Giuliani, fiscal conservative.

Unless it's federal tax dollars, and then you'd better keep sloppin' the hawgs...

4 posted on 04/20/2007 1:42:19 PM PDT by dirtboy (Duncan Hunter 08/But Fred would also be great)
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To: AZRepublican

Then cut off the welfare. For a guy who’s been touted as pulling people off of welfare and putting them into the job market, you could understand why this might look a bit contradictory.


5 posted on 04/20/2007 1:43:18 PM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007 (Why vote for Duncan Hunter in 2008? Look at my profile.)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

Haven’t you heard? 911 changed Rudy. He became a conservative weeks ago! :-)


6 posted on 04/20/2007 1:44:43 PM PDT by showme_the_Glory (No more rhyming, and I mean it! ..Anybody want a peanut.....)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007
So Rudy fought to get Americans off welfare.

But demanded the fedgov keep immigrants on welfare?

Boy, that's gonna sell really well as Rudy moves leftwards to replace the votes he won't get from socons...

7 posted on 04/20/2007 1:45:48 PM PDT by dirtboy (Duncan Hunter 08/But Fred would also be great)
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To: AZRepublican
There you go.

Ah, so Rudy didn't care about my financial pain paying welfare to immigrants. Gotcha.

8 posted on 04/20/2007 1:46:33 PM PDT by dirtboy (Duncan Hunter 08/But Fred would also be great)
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To: dirtboy

>Ah, so Rudy didn’t care about my financial pain paying welfare to immigrants.

You got it!


9 posted on 04/20/2007 1:49:29 PM PDT by AZRepublican ("The degree in which a measure is necessary can never be a test of the legal right to adopt it.")
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To: dirtboy

Another reason Rudy won’t win...


10 posted on 04/20/2007 1:49:43 PM PDT by gman992
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

11 posted on 04/20/2007 1:54:32 PM PDT by flashbunny (<--- Free Anti-Rino graphics! See Rudy the Rino get exposed as a liberal with his own words!)
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To: flashbunny

E-X-T-R-A-C-T illegals! Don’t send them my money.


12 posted on 04/20/2007 2:00:14 PM PDT by samadams2000 (Someone important make......The Call!)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

Legal or illegal (I know, you need a scorecard or thesauraus when deciphering such articles) the article is a good argument for the proposition that we should seek & allow entry to new citizens who contribute to our society, rather than become public charges.
I know it’s a novel argument: that we give immigration preference to youngsters, at least high school grads with job skills and no criminal records, rather than unemployable, ailing undesirables, then their families.
I’m just sayin’ . . .


13 posted on 04/20/2007 2:00:35 PM PDT by tumblindice (Rudy's a regular `Diamond Jim Brady' with tax dollars. That's good to know.)
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To: FreeInWV; Reagan Man; Fierce Allegiance; EternalVigilance; B Knotts; jmc813; Kimberly GG; Sun; ...
STOP RUDY 2008 PING!

Freepmail me to be added or removed from this ping list.

14 posted on 04/20/2007 2:07:40 PM PDT by NapkinUser (John Edwards gets his salsa from New York City.)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

Rudy is pro illegal immigration all the way!!


15 posted on 04/20/2007 2:25:15 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! Or Rudy/Hillary if you want to murder conservatism)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007; All

Related and all in Rooty’s own words. Rooty proves once and for all that he is to the LEFT of Clinton!

“There has been a lot of anger, confusion and distortion about immigration. But most Americans, with their basic sense of fairness, will be able to see the unfair and possibly unconstitutional way that immigrants are being treated by the welfare and anti-immigration bills.

” “Executive Order 124” protects undocumented immigrants in New York City from being reported to the I.N.S. While they are using City services that are critical for their health and safety, and for the health and safety of the entire city.
“ Similarly, illegal and undocumented immigrants should be able to seek medical help without the threat of being reported..

“The federal government’s effort to overturn “Executive Order 124” is not only bad policy, it is a violation of the U.S. Constitution. It is my opinion that the new law is unfair because discriminates based on immigration status.

Much much more at link.

http://www.ibisnetwork.com/giuliani/text/immkenn.html


16 posted on 04/20/2007 2:47:57 PM PDT by Beagle8U (FreeRepublic -- One stop shopping ....... Its the Conservative Super Walmart for news .)
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To: flashbunny

Flashbunny, at the rate that Rudy is spouting stupidity, you’re going to run out of hard drive space making RINO cards. :)


17 posted on 04/20/2007 3:09:18 PM PDT by Old_Mil (Duncan Hunter in 2008! A Veteran, A Patriot, A Reagan Republican... http://www.gohunter08.com/)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

sorry....

while people can cherry pick all they want as a life long NYer I can tell you Guiliani did more to get generations of people off welfare rolls and forced them into workfare more then anyone else could’ve in this city....he also got attacked for doing it...


18 posted on 04/20/2007 3:21:38 PM PDT by God luvs America (When the silent majority speaks the earth trembles!)
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To: God luvs America

Oh, I know.

My question is, why not do the same for immigrants?


19 posted on 04/20/2007 3:23:45 PM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007 (Why vote for Duncan Hunter in 2008? Look at my profile.)
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To: NapkinUser

Thanks for the ping.


20 posted on 04/20/2007 6:32:05 PM PDT by 383rr (Those who choose security over liberty deserve neither- GUN CONTOL=SLAVERY)
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