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State of Black America
Washington Post ^ | 21 April 2007 | Editorial Staff

Posted on 04/21/2007 6:50:12 AM PDT by shrinkermd

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To: shrinkermd

I’m a white boy from the ‘hood. The blacks in my schools used to call it “home trainin’.” That’s what is missing.


41 posted on 04/21/2007 8:09:02 AM PDT by manic4organic (Send a care package through USO today.)
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To: Zack Nguyen
"At least some of the problems black Americans are suffering are probably related to failing public schools."

IMO, in many cases Blacks are the cause of failing schools. (Violence and disruptive behavior)

42 posted on 04/21/2007 8:10:41 AM PDT by blam
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To: shrinkermd

Group distributes fliers while searching for an IQ

43 posted on 04/21/2007 8:12:35 AM PDT by RGSpincich
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To: Vinnie

your comment about pawning the kids off on the grandparents struck a chord ... maybe it’s time parents told their kids “if you have a baby, or you get a girl pregnant, you raise and support it” instead of letting it be understood that they will take on that responsibility.


44 posted on 04/21/2007 8:14:37 AM PDT by EDINVA
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To: ladyjane
Go to school and you'll earn more money.

Go to school, sit down, shut up, listen, study, do homework, learn, and you'll earn more money.

45 posted on 04/21/2007 8:22:31 AM PDT by Doe Eyes
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To: T-Bird45
I guess it wasn't going to be too long before the PC "racist" flag would come out.

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PC my ass. The UK based newbie's comment presumes that Blacks are in this position because of their nature and that they are incapable of change. That my friend is damn near the definition of racism.

46 posted on 04/21/2007 8:36:14 AM PDT by wtc911 ("How you gonna get back down that hill?")
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To: shrinkermd

Get married and stay married before you have children. Treat your children with love and respect and don’t subject them to mistreatment.
Study hard in school.
Stop criticizing each other for “acting White”
stop calling each other the n word
agree to be judged by the same standard as everyone else
expect no special privileges because of your color
then you’ll do well


47 posted on 04/21/2007 8:43:10 AM PDT by Leftism is Mentally Deranged
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To: Leftism is Mentally Deranged
Get married and stay married before you have children. Treat your children with love and respect and don’t subject them to mistreatment. Study hard in school. Stop criticizing each other for “acting White” stop calling each other the n word agree to be judged by the same standard as everyone else expect no special privileges because of your color then you’ll do well

All very good suggestons, but I have only one more..
QUIT BLAMING WHITEY FOR YOUR PROBLEMS!!

48 posted on 04/21/2007 8:48:50 AM PDT by jcparks (Claire, I'm afraid its time)
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To: blam
People who refuse to accept the reality of the present and future - are doomed to failure in both.

Too many folks believe they are entitled to more than a CHANCE at an education, job, freedom or success..

The good things in life don’t come searching one out..
The opportunity to succeed is present, but it requires EFFORT, COMMITMENT and PERFORMANCE..

If one were to study the history of most “failed” individuals — it would show the cumulative effect of many things that had less to do with race, and more to do with behavior and environment.

Early and irresponsible sex and out of wedlock childbirth.
Parenting by ignorant children themselves.
Unstable home and family environment
Poor early childhood training and socializing
Insufficient emphasis on education
Being raised in an environment that celebrates slothfulness and thuggery.
etc, etc. etc.......

Then - the product of this “history” decides that crime pays better than any job an ignorant, unskilled, slothful, unkempt, unclean and incomprehensible English speaker can secure - and they wonder why blacks are in prisons out of proportion to their numbers in society..

Duh!

Semper Fi

49 posted on 04/21/2007 9:06:53 AM PDT by river rat (You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: shrinkermd

You want a double standard for using racial epitaphs? You got it.
You want a double standard for out-of-wedlock births? You got it.
You want a double standard for intra-racial crime? You got it.

You want double standards for a “culture” that will, because of its own desire for double standards, likely cease to exist in 50 to 75 years? You got ‘em.

Sad, sad, sad.


50 posted on 04/21/2007 9:07:15 AM PDT by Crawdad (I cried because I had no shoes, until I met a man who had no class.)
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To: shrinkermd; All

“In addition, young black males between the ages of 15 and 34 years are nine times more likely to die of homicide than their white counterparts”

And the majority of those homicides are committed by??? Another black man.

However, we need to keep in mind it is not race, it is culture and the social and political culture of so many “poor” urban black-majority areas represent too many individuals that expect far too much from everyone else and too little from themselves, while lacking strong families and concerted religious guidance.

I would like to see “relocation” programs for young first-time offenders that provide skill-training and occupation placement services in the growing areas of the country, instead of just sending them back to the “government plantation society” culture and cities they were arrested from.

The “cure” for the ills the article moans about are in economic advancement, and no amount of welfare, subsidies or “urban development” grants can save, or reverse, the decline in many of the worst off communities.

The “poor” need to internally migrate instead of perennially waiting for the Congressional black caucus (the real uncle Toms) to come back from the masters’ house (Federal government subsidies and entitlements) with more gifts to save them. They need to get out of the failed cities and culture that the liberals have built for them (and want to see them kept in) and we ought to help them get out of there as well.

Quit propping up the failed liberal northeast ghettos and use 100% of whatever federal money is currently being spent in such efforts to help people leave.


51 posted on 04/21/2007 9:11:07 AM PDT by Wuli
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To: Wuli
"I would like to see “relocation” programs for young first-time offenders that provide skill-training and occupation placement services in the growing areas of the country, instead of just sending them back to the “government plantation society” culture and cities they were arrested from."

Good Idea. Send me your address and we'll send them to your neighborhood so that you can set an example for them.

This sort of thinking will get you killed.

53 posted on 04/21/2007 9:25:07 AM PDT by blam
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To: blam

“This sort of thinking will get you killed.”

I don’t think so.

First, 70% of all “first time offenders” do not become repeat offenders.

The problem is the other 30%, because the largest segment of crime is committed by repeat offenders, which means they were once part of that 30% of first time offenders.

Most “first time offender” programs run by the states, if they have an emphasis and focus on improving the skills of “first time offenders” and with providing “first time offenders” with post-incarceration occupational placement assistance do have a lower rate of repeat offenses among those “first time offenders” that participated in those programs than do the states that do not have them. And there is a multiplier affect on how much you reduce the crime rate, over time, because such a high % of the crime is committed by repeat offenders. Every “first time offender” you help in a path to not being a repeat offender will add some reduction to the crime statistics over many years ahead, for every year that your initial efforts immediately after their first offense meant that you helped them not become a repeat offender.

The best first-time offender programs either include chaplains to try to assist first-time offenders in gaining a religious perspective, or are run directly by Churches.

One of the problems is that simply sending some of the “first time offenders” back to the community they came from defeats the possibilities for occupational placement assistance, because the jobs just are not there.

I believe there is too much emphasis placed on “saving the community” that the first-time offender came from by emphasizing attempts to reintegrate them back into “their community”, and too little emphasis on helping to save the first offender from becoming a repeat offender.

If you think these ideas are simply “liberal” and secular, read on:

http://www.religionandsocialpolicy.org/news/article.cfm?id=5774


54 posted on 04/21/2007 10:49:09 AM PDT by Wuli
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To: TheDon

I think the question is why do their families fail and why do the parents lack moral fibre.


55 posted on 04/21/2007 11:07:00 AM PDT by Hatter6
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To: nckerr

I don’t know fully about the situation in America, but in Britain, black people are much more likely to follow Christianity than white people are. They still have exactly the same problems here as they do in America (High crime and unemployment).


56 posted on 04/21/2007 11:09:27 AM PDT by Hatter6
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To: shrinkermd
Black history test.
57 posted on 04/21/2007 11:43:15 AM PDT by Albion Wilde (...where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom. -2 Cor 3:17)
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To: Hatter6
No amount of government intervention can ever overcome nature.

I completely agree about government intervention, but please elaborate on what you mean about nature.


58 posted on 04/21/2007 11:52:34 AM PDT by rdb3 (There's no place like 127.0.0.1 (Get well Snowman!))
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To: shrinkermd
(3)All-male schools and longer school days; (4)Second-chance programs for high school dropouts and ex-offenders;

Provided they're well-implemented and not just a handout or make-work program, Republicans should engage in the debate on these and look to take some constructive action. But even more so, we should insist that existing school programs should be far more accountable and disciplined to begin with. This is something we should encourage state and local GOP leaders to tackle, not do it at the federal level though the feds might play a modest federal role or administer a small blok grant program.
59 posted on 04/21/2007 12:22:55 PM PDT by George W. Bush
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To: TheDon

Exactly. Black parents are failures. Black children have typically been abandoned by their father, and this breeds crime and is self-perpetuating from generation to generation, since young blacks don’t learn how to be a real father. About half of all violent crimes in the United States are committed by blacks - mostly young black males. Black parents are to blame, not whitey, not the “environment”, not “income inequality”, and not the government.


60 posted on 04/21/2007 12:23:29 PM PDT by pleikumud
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