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Will FR embrace socialism to make way for Rudy Giuliani as a Republican presidential candidate?
vanity | April 21, 2007 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 04/21/2007 6:42:25 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

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To: rbmillerjr

I am not a collectivist - and I do not like collectivist coercion which would be necessary for your scheme. Voluntary abortions are about as far as one could go.


2,081 posted on 04/22/2007 10:04:22 AM PDT by GSlob
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To: Reagan Man
Don’t forget about PhiMamajamabama. That was the post that set Jim off a couple of nights ago.

Whining that she and her other Rudybot cohorts were not welcome on FR. It was disgusting to say the least.

2,082 posted on 04/22/2007 10:04:46 AM PDT by Coldwater Creek (President Fred Thompson will finally give the University of Memphis the respect that it is due!)
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To: Jim Robinson

Well said, JimRob!


2,083 posted on 04/22/2007 10:04:48 AM PDT by Andonius_99 (There are two sides to every issue. One is right, the other is wrong; but the middle is always evil.)
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To: panthermom
Bravo, to you, Politicalmom!

"If this time around we’re told don’t worry about abortion, next time it will be don’t worry about illegals, as so on."

I'm already hearing from libs that since Rudy has stated it's a right, and he's a Republican, I must be in denial.

:O)

P
Run, FRED, run!

2,084 posted on 04/22/2007 10:05:02 AM PDT by papasmurf (Name me one nation that taxed itself into prosperity. Run, FRED, run!)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

Suicide by ‘zot’.


2,085 posted on 04/22/2007 10:05:13 AM PDT by stuned_beeber (Quit...Give up...Go home...- Vote Democrat!)
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To: Jim Robinson
Kinda like one oh shit wipes out ten attaboys.

Precisely. There is for some a double standard. (Not me). Why am I not surprised that those who support a liberal candidate will give him a pass on a fistful of issues, proclaiming him to be our salvation from terrorists, but will patently dismiss any other more conservative candidate for any alleged infraction or association with someone who has broken the rules (as if that would be avoidable for a member of Congress)?

It has reached the level of a personality cult.

To me, that has dangerous aspects. Think of historical instances where a person either seeking or who had political power had a following who would religiously ignore their failings including the use of that power to selectively uphold (or not) the law, against specific groups of people. Who paid lip service to law and order, and enforced, by edict, the law against some but broke it to protect others.

Somehow this gets distorted into courage to 'do the right thing'. It's okay because he cleaned up New York (Warsaw?), he got rid of the 'squeegee men', he was tough on crime (which only depends on what is a crime today, and for whom), who already looks on the less urbane and avant garde as an underclass.

But hey, that's all right because he will see to it the trains run on time. /sarc

The parallels are there for anyone to see, if they will look.

If someone will abuse the relatively small power of a Mayor's office, in patent defiance of the law of the land, if they will warp the law to their own twisted interpretation all the while they maintain they will uphold it, they have much in common with those we lost 3000 men a day on some days to stop. They have much in common with someone who restored a nation's pride at the expense of its soul, and ended up costing it both.

Lest we, this great nation go there, I cannot and will not vote for Giuliani.

2,086 posted on 04/22/2007 10:05:22 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: veronica
Who would dare impugn his conservative credentials

It is so "liberal" to say that you can't question a person's judgment because they had a loss. I don't question his credentials, I question his judgment. I think he's wrong to support Rudy, and I think I have every right to say that even though he lost his wife on 9/11. Being married to a dead person doesn't make you immune from making stupid decisions like supporting Rudy.

2,087 posted on 04/22/2007 10:05:23 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: rbmillerjr

Proabortion is not conservative no matter how much a person may try to convince themself it is.


2,088 posted on 04/22/2007 10:05:29 AM PDT by tutstar (Baptist Ping list - freepmail me to get on or off.)
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To: Spiff; GSlob
You are a monster.

No, no, no... he's a fiscal conservative!

2,089 posted on 04/22/2007 10:05:37 AM PDT by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (NRA Life Member)
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To: CharlesWayneCT
.....I can’t remember ANY group posting so many duplicate articles about their pet candidates in my history here, as I see from Rudy supporters. ...

You weren't here when I was stumping for Steve Forbes.

2,090 posted on 04/22/2007 10:06:22 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Just sayin

Well said. Duncan Hunter is the only real socon in this race.

I will Vote Duncan Hunter in my primary and I will vote Duncan Hunter in the General even if I have to write his name in.
***So, let’s say you vote a straight republican ticket for the down-ticket races like congress critters & local races, and fill in Duncan Hunter for Pres. That means you voted a straight republican ticket, doesn’t it?


2,091 posted on 04/22/2007 10:07:08 AM PDT by Kevmo (Duncan Hunter just needs one Rudy G Campaign Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVBtPIrEleM)
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To: CharlesWayneCT
And the rudy people post vanities attacking conservatives for being stupid for adhering to conservative principles, attacking other candidates for things Rudy agrees with, attacking principled conservatives for wanting Hillary as president, and even saying that pro-life people will have the blood of aborted babies on their hands if we don’t vote for pro-abortion candidate Rudy.

I have never done this and never would.

2,092 posted on 04/22/2007 10:07:30 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Rodney King

It’s common knowledge that conservatives voted for Perot and put him in office.

Who else do you think voted for him? Socialists?

John


2,093 posted on 04/22/2007 10:07:46 AM PDT by Diggity
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Ha! My husband and I were Steve Forbes supporters, too. Boy, did we take a lickin’ . . . but kept on tickin’.


2,094 posted on 04/22/2007 10:07:50 AM PDT by Saundra Duffy (Mitt Romney for President !!!)
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To: calex59

“Well, Jim, since most of your polls show that the majority of us DON’T want Rudy the Rino for president I don’t think you have to worry about us embracing socialism. I sure as he** won’t.”

You can’t ignore the fact that Rudy is leading Hillary in all the public opinion polls. I think you’re refering to FR polls here.


2,095 posted on 04/22/2007 10:07:51 AM PDT by merry10
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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian
Thanks, I think I get the picture.

if you dared to disagree with his own Jack-Boot definition of "Conservatism", he'd spam the Thread with accusations that you were a "LiberalDoperTarian" or whatever (never mind that the Thread concerned Privacy or Gun Control or Eminent Domain, or what have you).

That does ring a bell.

I think that Jim can probably get away with using the word coarsely, once, on his Own Forum, in ejecting a Jack-Boot gun-controller like "Quidnunc"... without having to Ban Himself.

LOL. But of coarse! (sorry).

I think the comment went beyond a single word.

Thanks again.

2,096 posted on 04/22/2007 10:08:12 AM PDT by secretagent
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To: CharlesWayneCT
And when they post their polls, and their rudy-cheerleading articles, they get all smug and dismissive of the people on this forum for having principles and being too stupid to see the inevitability of our downfall.

Didn't do this either.

2,097 posted on 04/22/2007 10:08:13 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: BlessedBeGod

incomprehensibility disguising as greater wisdom than you can fathom.

“What beautiful clothes the King is wearing” they said. But he had no clothes.


2,098 posted on 04/22/2007 10:08:23 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: presently no screen name
Then FR can close down - for all the good they did in the past - they got zotted at their own game.

FR is an good sounding board & excellent forum in which to exercise political debate, but it has no influence on actual politics and/or policy at any level, whether it be local, state or national.

I'm in complete agreement with the criticisms leveled at Rudy & Arnie. Rudy's lack of understanding of what the 2A really means is disturbing, as his lack of appreciation of why family foundation is critical to society's long-term stability.

Yet, at the end of the day, I'll be there pulling the R lever regardless of whose name is there, because quite simply, I can't stand democrats.

2,099 posted on 04/22/2007 10:09:02 AM PDT by Chuck Dent
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To: CharlesWayneCT
I know that Rudy supporters are tired of attacks on their guy as well. But they are not naive, they know their guy is not conservative, but at best is a schizophrenic who agrees with conservatives on a small number of issues.

Thank you Dr. CWCT

2,100 posted on 04/22/2007 10:09:12 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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