Posted on 04/21/2007 10:14:44 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
I don’t think there is any mass murderer or terrorist who was born as such. Some may be born with violent tendencies or lack of inhibitions but I don’t think most that can be said of most mass murderers. I think there is value in understanding what core events planted the hate and opened the door to evil but I think we should never confuse our understanding for what was the plight for a lonely troubled human being with the excuse of their attacks on the innocent.
That is still the thing I don’t fully understand but of course the key step is when they generalize against the world....However would any of us say they are not right in their condemnation of it? That is what makes it especially difficult. We have a world were many of the safety mechanisms that once put in place a clear moral code, a safety valve for the pressures of the heart, where frustrations could be dealt with in prayer and one could find strength in their personal persecution and rise above it. The sense of something greater in the back of your mind and in your heart. So that no matter how angry, you knew the limits of your rage and where the line was.
Now we have psychologists and a priesthood of chemists who try to differentiate between a “chemical imbalance” and the manifest depression of a lost soul as if to suggest the whole brain and ever action and event does not have an effect on the structure and operation of our brain. They tell us that we are no different than animals when it is clearly obvious that the truth is otherwise whether one believes in a creator or not. I can not think of one chimp mass murderer in the history of the world though I’m sure some males rip just born chimps from their mothers and beat them against the rocks till they are dead so that they can copulate with her. I suppose this is a similarity the exception being that we are more clinical in the cold execution of that horror.
That coldness and the pervasiveness of mock concern and empty love will guarantee more and more mass murderers. Just as the madrases churn out more brain washed children aspiring to death. Is there any surprise that the up tick in the frequency of mass murder especially in relationship to schools begins with the 60s? It is ironic that those hedonistic principles of “free sex” and radical indiscriminateness denying the belief in concrete “right and wrong” has helped fuel the feelings of meaninglessness and emptiness in so many. That which was supposed to free us to be happy and without conscience has made so many of us unhappy without conscience.
I might observe, with a good natured chuckle, that something well and carefully written is worth an equally careful read. I chide myself for dashing off a series of hasty posts. I say what I mean, but..... always regret my own lack of care.
You are right in there being no excuse for "attacks on the innocent". It seems that again and again it is the innocent who are destroyed. They always make an easy target. Essentially people like Cho are cowards.
Your statement echoes one of the ideas contained in Aldous Huxley's "Brave New World," (published 1932). The ideas that took root in the 1960's did not emancipate, they eventually destroyed.
“What is being indicted in this article is the educational system and the feminist dominant social norms that screw up our young men over and over again by not allowing them the outlets to be young men.
There’s a lot of truth to that. Cho was an extreme example of what happens, but many young men have problems they should have if we weren’t living in such feminist-idealistic pc dorky times...IMHO, after seeing what the system has done to a lot of young men who no longer have the freedom to be fully male in positive ways, where people the popular culture looks up to are almost all dysfunctional entertainers and sports figures, and nobility of purpose is pretty much not inculturated anywhere.”
Thank you, I’m disappointed nobody else has yet caught on to the fact that this is what the article is getting at. I especially like the line that describes studenthood as being stuck in perpetual adolescence. It really did feel like that to me in my college career, and after the first half of college I began hating it because it all seemed so meaningless, especially when much more important things are happening in this world.
C.S. Lewis spoke at great length about it also. I’ve not read Huxley’s book but I wholeheartedly agree with the sentiment. The idea that if only we got rid of the guilt and shame in relationship to sexuality we’d all be healthier and happier. I do believe that there have been benefits coming out of the 60s but at a very high cost. We needed the ability to let our hair down a bit and relax and instead we get a rancid distortion of human sexuality packaged as entertainment and enlightenment which it most surely is not.
We can largely thank Freud and his progeny for this.
Once again he’s a victim and we are the reason for his mental illness, There is one thing the administration forgot to do, they did almost everything else to accomodate him GET HIM A HOOKER! Some how I believe they thought about this. Sick and getting sicker folks
Our child was similarly picked on. I'm normally direct and blunt. Professional but blunt. I let the principle know it should stop.
We were informed that our home environment was likely the problem and that the school was requiring us to go to see a school paid counselor.
A friend was a psychologist qualified to do the review and told us all to come on down to his office. We did. He wrote a letter to the school to correct its behavior. In other words, telling the principle his school was the problem.
That put an end to their assault on our family but incredibly it did nothing to stop the abuse of our child by the other children.
I had warned the principle that I would get a lawyer. We did that. Turns out the school had another suit against it over the very same thing. I was called into the principles office and given assurances they would correct the situation.
It did get a bit better but still the hurt was there. And what was most apparent was that the teachers and the administrators were as childish as the kids were. I also wonder what would have happened if I had not had a friend to intervene on the sociological review.
I probably should have quoted your entire post - the bit I did copy could read a bit funny.
But on to your excuse about dropping the italics-to-quote-format. I suppose if you are merely being obstinate and not ignorant it is OK. Ignorant on FR is definitely a no-no. Obstinate is what all of us get to be from time to time...especially when it has been some years since we have done it.
FReepRegards, BJN
I am glad you were able to get the situation under control. My daughter only spent a year in public school (my son is autistic- in public middle school- and if he is teased, he is luckily oblivious.) She had a bullying problem that was not resolved in that year. The one time she fought back, she was disciplined. I have a real problem telling my child that fighting back is wrong. She is back at the private school now. The bullying still happens from time to time there, but the school is more responsive than the public school was.
It takes a lot of hits to the self esteem to be bullied. I grew up in a non-dysfunctional home, but I have had to work really hard on my self-esteem as an adult- and that is a result of school not my family.
I did see a good therapist (after I married someone who ended up a bully) that helped me see the kids who were so mean most likely had their own problems at home.
You being there for your child will negate a lot of the ill effects.
Talk about blaming hte victim! Blaming society for what these miscreants do is one of the oldest liberal tricks.
Can you think of that one kid that was outcast, picked on, left out, alone?
Yeah. I was one of those kids. There is no possibility that I would ever react like this sicko did.
I was also the kid that went out of his way to befriend the new kid, the unpopular kid, and the others who weren't "popular." So don't try to seel me this rubbish about how he did this because he was picked on.
Talk about blaming hte victim! Blaming society for what these miscreants do is one of the oldest liberal tricks.
Can you think of that one kid that was outcast, picked on, left out, alone?
Yeah. I was one of those kids. There is no possibility that I would ever react like this sicko did.
I was also the kid that went out of his way to befriend the new kid, the unpopular kid, and the others who weren't "popular." So don't try to sell me this rubbish about how he did this because he was picked on.
English degree? And a social misfit?
His job prospects mostly involved “would you like fries with that?”
Still, on the other hand, I think an accurate picture made in the article of some of the less englightening things about modern, nihilistic American culture, and particularly the weird state of life on our campuses, cannot be denied. This is what we refer to as American cultural meltdown. Eroding moral values, when combined with a powerful weapon, can bring about such grief...do the libs really even understand that they have made this bed that we all have to sleep in now???
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The Fear of God is a good thing. It is also the starting point of a happy life.
Very very true and THE reason why this behavior was rare in the past, despite many rural adolescent males possessing guns.
Uh, yeah, that’s it - he became a homicidal psycho because of missing manhood.
It’s one of those moments of truth for us, and our responses to it say more about us than about the madman. I figured, and it turns out that I was just about right, that this lonely, ostracized guy, paid these women a compliment, however clumsily he did it, and as is the custom in America of the Zeroes decade, they reported it as “stalking”. That is straight out of my corporation’s sexual harassment policy handbook. You may not, you are verboten to say to a woman co-worker that she looks nice today, or off to the re-education camp with ya, comrade. (And, oh yes, you’re fired, if she complains.)
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