To: Tailgunner Joe
They wanted to kill Hitler because he was losing the war and they wanted to win it.They weren't really 'losing' in November 1943 yet.
8 posted on
04/22/2007 8:22:23 PM PDT by
FreedomCalls
(It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
To: FreedomCalls
To: FreedomCalls; Tailgunner Joe
The Allies dominated the skies in Europe by the end of 1943. They eliminated the German submarine threat and I believe Italy was out of the war...
The tide was turning in favor of the Allies...
12 posted on
04/22/2007 8:35:45 PM PDT by
John123
(Bill barely mentions Hillary in his memoirs... I will now light myself on fire)
To: FreedomCalls; Tailgunner Joe
Germany was definitely ‘losing’ after the failed Kursk offensive against Russia and the Allied landings in Sicily, both of which took place July 1943.
13 posted on
04/22/2007 8:44:12 PM PDT by
AntiGuv
("..I do things for political expediency.." - Sen. John McCain on FOX News)
To: FreedomCalls
To the professionals of the German General Staff they were. They’d already been driven out of Africa, with the loss of some 325,000 troops. The 6th Army, and elements of the Fourth Panzer Army had surrendered at Stalingrad, with the loss of almost 300,000 troops. They’d lost the Battle of Kursk, with massive losses in troops and more importantly, armor that could not be replaced. The Allies were in mainland Italy, and had already taken Sicily. The Battle of the Atlantic was going against the Navy. The Luftwaffe was playing defense on every front. The Allies were expected to land in France in 1944, leading to two main theaters of operations for the German Army. The handwriting was on the wall by November, 1943.
14 posted on
04/22/2007 8:45:35 PM PDT by
PzLdr
("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
To: FreedomCalls
“They weren’t really ‘losing’ in November 1943 yet.”
Uh, yes they were. North Africa and Sicily were already lost, and the allies had invaded Italy. We were bombing Germany nightly, and the U-boat fleet was under very heavy pressure. On the Eastern Front, Stalingrad had been lost completely in January of ‘43, and Kursk’s massive loss was the prior summer. If that’s not losing, what is?
To: FreedomCalls
The German General Staff knew they were losing when the 1941 drive on Moscow failed. They knew they didn’t have the manpower or industry for a prolonged total war.
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