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China warns U.S. piracy case will harm trade tries
Reuters ^ | 4/23/07

Posted on 04/23/2007 10:46:53 PM PDT by Pub Linkser--80

BEIJING (Reuters) - China has made great strides in protecting patents and copyrights and a U.S. complaints over commercial piracy would "seriously harm" cooperation, Vice Premier Wu Yi said on Tuesday.

Earlier this month, the United States launched two cases at the WTO claiming that Beijing was not doing enough to punish illegal copiers of films and music and that Chinese restrictions on entertainment imports violated trade rules.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News
KEYWORDS: china; piracy; totalitarianasism; trade
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"On Monday, China sought to demonstrate its determination to stop commercial piracy by releasing an intellectual property action plan.

China would draft and implement 14 laws on intellectual property rights and usage, and issue explanations and guiding policies for handling IP violation cases, according to the notice."

China needs to understand that their "action plan" and "14 laws" are not the end results that we expect. The US will measure progress in this trade dispute in billions of dollars of additional Chinese purchases of software and entertainment products, and in billions of dollars of shrinkage in the projected large and growing trade deficits with China. Without measurable financial results, plans and laws are just talk.

1 posted on 04/23/2007 10:46:57 PM PDT by Pub Linkser--80
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Good. Maybe this will be the thing we need to start keeping Sinocrap out of our country.


2 posted on 04/23/2007 10:47:57 PM PDT by TBP
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To: TBP

Where I grew up, talk is cheap and only action and results count for anything. There has been some solid action by China, but I also hear a lot of cheap talk from the Chinese about the trade problem.


3 posted on 04/23/2007 10:52:15 PM PDT by Pub Linkser--80 (Seer, sage, soothsayer, and former second-string outfielder for the Oklahoma Sooners.)
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“Beijing was not doing enough to punish illegal copiers of films and music”

It’s hard to know who to cheer for, the Chinese Communists or the Hollywood Leftists.


4 posted on 04/23/2007 11:25:54 PM PDT by PetroniusMaximus
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To: PetroniusMaximus

You can still cheer for Microsoft, Oracle, and Symantec.


5 posted on 04/23/2007 11:32:52 PM PDT by Pub Linkser--80 (Seer, sage, soothsayer, and former second-string outfielder for the Oklahoma Sooners.)
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Bring on the trade war!

Throw me into that briar patch.


6 posted on 04/23/2007 11:36:06 PM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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Would you settle for a tough game of Texas Hold-em at the negotiating table?


7 posted on 04/23/2007 11:41:47 PM PDT by Pub Linkser--80 (Seer, sage, soothsayer, and former second-string outfielder for the Oklahoma Sooners.)
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Hey, whatever works!


8 posted on 04/24/2007 12:18:57 AM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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"It's cheap to pirate goods, but expensive to protect copyright ... and society as a whole does not know enough about the problem," Wu added.

It's probably impossible to stop retailing of pirated goods in a country the size of China. But it shouldn't take too much effort to locate and shut down the large producers of pirated goods, and thereby stop the flow of pirated goods at its source. I respectfully disagree with Ms. Wu's statement.

9 posted on 04/24/2007 12:51:21 AM PDT by Pub Linkser--80 (Seer, sage, soothsayer, and former second-string outfielder for the Oklahoma Sooners.)
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They will never stop... I know a few people that deal dollar stores and people that sell knock offs in the city.. They can copy and reproduce goods within an hour of giving them the product - in any local factory in China. Not just software and such.. but hard tangible goods such as handbags, sneakers, watches, etc...

There are viliages with 4-5 person factories in every home. Just shelling out knock offs 24/7 to people around the world.

If the average pirate in the US can copy software and distribute it illegally (at will) you REALLY think you can stop China? On paper it looks good, but in reality its a farce..

10 posted on 04/24/2007 1:32:30 AM PDT by cdnerds (cdnerds.com)
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Impaled, the Chinese insect squirms and thrashes, to no avail as its lifeblood, stolen from others, drains slowly onto the ground.


11 posted on 04/24/2007 1:33:07 AM PDT by jeffers
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Push it enough, and the PLA will harvest organs from violators.


12 posted on 04/24/2007 1:37:48 AM PDT by familyop (Essayons (has-been))
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This is a joke, the Chinese thrive off their black and there's no way they're going to cut off their own nose to placate the US.
13 posted on 04/24/2007 2:25:47 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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Good. Maybe this will be the thing we need to start keeping Sinocrap out of our country.

Like the "Rolex" I am wearing. My wife saw it for $20 and bought it for me as a joke.

14 posted on 04/24/2007 3:18:58 AM PDT by Gorzaloon (Global Warming: A New Kind Of Scientology for the Rest Of Us.)
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The interesting thing is that thanks to Bittorrent and broadband, Chinese CD and DVD stores that sell pirated goods are starting to wind down. Throttled broadband is available for about 90 yuan a month, via either DSL or cable modem. (In the wealthier coastal regions, a department store sales associate might make about 800 yuan a month). The next frontier is probably attacks on China’s non-existent prosecution of Bittorrent users who download copyrighted material.


15 posted on 04/24/2007 4:23:18 AM PDT by Zhang Fei
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China go pound sand.


16 posted on 04/24/2007 5:45:21 AM PDT by MARKUSPRIME
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To: cdnerds
Me personally, I can't do a thing about Chinese piracy. But I would bet you that 60% of the piracy is being done by no more than 100 companies, and if the Chinese government decided to force those companies to pay limited royalties then piracy would decline substantially within 90 days. The problem, of course, is the Chinese government doesn't want to spend its dollars on American software and DVDs. It wants to spend those dollars on things that it can't get by piracy, such as nuclear power plants, Boeing jets, Intel microprocessors, and large numbers of Russian weapons and warships.

I also suspect that the Chinese government is buying some real estate in America using various kinds of front companies, which is good for our country in some ways. Chinese real estate purchases send dollars back to America, support the value of the dollar, and support real estate prices. But purchases of American products generate more jobs and tax revenue in the US, and we need China to step up and start buying more American products.

17 posted on 04/24/2007 8:51:39 AM PDT by Pub Linkser--80 (Seer, sage, soothsayer, and former second-string outfielder for the Oklahoma Sooners.)
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Just FYI, pirates in the US cannot copy and distribute large amounts of software. They would get caught and prosecuted if they tried to do that. The big software companies put a stop to large scale piracy very quickly. As a percentage of total software and DVD sales, piracy is a small problem in the US and the EU.


18 posted on 04/24/2007 8:55:59 AM PDT by Pub Linkser--80 (Seer, sage, soothsayer, and former second-string outfielder for the Oklahoma Sooners.)
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“It wants to spend those dollars on things that it can’t get by piracy, such as nuclear power plants, Boeing jets, Intel microprocessors...”

Correction: Things it can’t get by piracy YET!

I posted this on another thread:

Not exactly piracy, but you’ll get the idea...

Our trade with China needs to be reevaluated for a whole host of reasons, one of which is the suicidal tendencies of our corporations, who send manufacturing over there and end up developing their own competition.

A perfect example was in the WSJ on Friday. Favorite car of the up-and-coming Chinese? A Chinese-produced Buick. Oh, excuse me, it USED to be that Buick. Now, the company that was producing Buicks for GM has come out with their OWN upscale car.

GM’s response? “We were told early on that it might come to this, but we felt it was important to be in China anyway.”

It’s happening in industry after industry. As Bugs Bunny said: “What a bunch of maroons!”


19 posted on 04/24/2007 9:01:52 AM PDT by BikerJoe
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Well GM had to expect Chinese competition eventually. GM just has to build better cars than the local competition. I mean geez, GM has a 70 year head start on Chinese companies at least in terms of management techniques, if not the actual technology of making cars (which they provided to China.) GM should do reasonably well in China, but they can’t get lazy and they have to stay two steps ahead of the local competition.


20 posted on 04/24/2007 9:08:20 AM PDT by Pub Linkser--80 (Seer, sage, soothsayer, and former second-string outfielder for the Oklahoma Sooners.)
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